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I asked that and they said no. As a matter of fact, they said that an upcoming build (don't know when) would stop Bolts from downgrading to TE3.
Did you by any chance see any trace of the new TiVo app for Apple TV, Fire TV, Roku or Android TV? Or get any kind of status update on when they'll release?
 
If it looks like a cable box, I want back up buttons and a clock on the front. Otherwise the Bolt form factor is fine. :)
The original Series 3 had an lcd display up front.

The Bolt Form factor is horrible. Their return rate on Bolts due to poor heat management and failures partially drove the new design.

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PC desktop computers will never go extinct since a laptop with a similar CPU or GPU will never run consistently as fast and be regularly throttled back in speed to conserve both power and minimize the need for heat dissapation. Therefore the need for 3.5" drives will never go away.

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They expect platter hard drive sales to drop 50% over the next year. Because more Solid State Drives are being installed, instead of platter drives.

Your average user has no need for a platter drive. Since they don't need a bunch of storage. So a 500GB or 1TB SSD is way more than enough storage for your average user.

Personally I use cheap NVMe drives in most of my PCs now for the OS. They get 2000MB/s read speeds and 1000MB/s write speeds. Then I have two SSDs installed(500+MB/s read/write). Between 240GB to 1TB in size. And then they have one internal platter drive. Between 1TB and 6TB in size.
 
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OK, so it looks like the TiVo Edge won't offer access to all those Android TV apps on the Google Play store. But here's an interesting concept for cloud-based deployment of Android apps. This company ActiveVideo maintains all the Android apps on their cloud server and then just about any internet-connected STB can hook into that. The apps never actually install on the local box. If this takes off, maybe TiVo could strike a deal to integrate their service into TiVo retail devices (and drop the HTML5 app platform they use now).

ActiveVideo offers Android apps without the Android TV
Maybe this is what TiVo+ is.
 
Unless, they do the logical thing. (Something the TE4 never was and never will be) Go to TE5.

TE4 is none starter, period. The person behind it should be fired or sued for the equivalent of software engineering malpractice. The guide elimination, not allowing simple back and forth network PC transfers, the future is better than this TE4. Retire the TE4, bury it in the past were it belongs. Put it on the dusty self with Microsoft Vista. Come out with a new TE5 that returns the best and adds the rest.
There are a lot of us who disagree with this assessment.
 
While they’re doing TE5, how about a proper local-network settings migration tool? On the other hand, they’ve put off such an obvious feature so long there might not be a next box to migrate to.
 
Discussion starter · #854 ·
Missed that
Yeah, based on the info from Zatz (which is pretty much always right when it comes to all thing TiVo), it looks like TiVo Plus is gonna be something like the streaming channels offered by Xumo TV or Pluto TV, but integrated into the regular OTA/cable channel guide rather than siloed away in a separate app. A lot like LG TVs do with their Channel Plus feature.
 
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Will they be able to record those channels? Or just watch them live?
Good question. I've never seen any of those live streaming OTT channels allowing recording to a local hard drive. Or for that matter, I don't know if any of them even allow local trick play. But it's hard to imagine TiVo agreeing to incorporate them without at least the ability for trick play (e.g. pause at least up to 30 minutes, caching the streaming on the TiVo's hard drive). It would be really jarring for TiVo users to not have the feature for every channel that they can surf to by hitting the channel up/down button.

But I don't think either Xumo TV or Pluto TV's program guides showing anything beyond the next hour or two, so I'm less confident that such channels would allow TiVo users to set up recordings. We'll see...
 
How can you? Even if you don't like the old guide and even if you don't like to transfer things on and off your TiVo, why do you not want other users to be able to do it if they want?
They can. They stay with TE3. Nobody is making anyone move unless they buy new equipment.
 
Everything you're settling for is so old it should come with tubes. You move, it's 2020 AD.
Again. No one is forcing you to use TE4. Instead use something that came out when tubes were still around and claim you are ahead.

And it is 2019.

And you move on. Like understanding there are ways to share programs beyond copying them to your device. Try a plex server which supports watching your programs anywhere you are and on multiple devices. How quaint to need to put them on your TiVo.
 
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