TiVo Edge (Series 7 DVR for Cable)

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by NashGuy, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. Jun 19, 2019 #61 of 525
    krkaufman

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    Hmmm... Given that the BOLT OTA can only run TE4/Hydra, I have to wonder if the new EDGE box will be similarly limited to TE4/Hydra, with no rollback possibility.
     
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  2. Jun 19, 2019 #62 of 525
    OrangeCrush

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    It's hard for me to see what the point of this is, beyond just a fairly incremental specs refresh from the Bolt and more normal case to make it easier/cheaper to manufacture. I wonder if we'll see an Edge OTA at some point too and whether that'll be ATSC 1 or 3.
     
  3. Jun 19, 2019 #63 of 525
    mattyro7878

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    I am happy they are offering a box with HDR10 and Dolbyvision . As stated before,this was a device that was not expected to ever exist.
     
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  4. Jun 19, 2019 #64 of 525
    NashGuy

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    Almost certainly. Hydra is the standard TiVo UI now. The old Encore UI has been officially deprecated. Would be very unusual for any tech company to roll out brand new products with the option to roll back to last-gen deprecated software.

    Speaking of the UI that will be on the TiVo Edge, Zatz finishes his post on it thusly:

    "Also we know a substantial new interface is being evaluated, one that even more closely merges linear and OTA content… alongside new advertising initiatives."

    I assume that's a typo and he meant "OTT" (i.e. streaming), not "OTA". So his sources tell him that TiVo is apparently considering either scrapping Hydra or giving it a major update!
     
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  5. Jun 19, 2019 #65 of 525
    davezatz

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    Thanks, fixed it.

    Most of my intel on this topic is from the last few quarterly calls, although I have heard whispers of what's at work and David Shoop's public LinkedIn profile provides color as well:

    EDIT: Hopefully they weren't relying on the same provider that Silicon Dust was using for HDHomeRun Premium...
     
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  6. Jun 19, 2019 #66 of 525
    krkaufman

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    Or David Shoop.
     
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    krkaufman

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    If you do have any informants inside, insight on the software front would be valuable:
     
  8. Jun 19, 2019 #68 of 525
    stile99

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    SHHHHH! My Bolt OTA running TE3 might hear you!
     
  9. Jun 19, 2019 #69 of 525
    DVR_Dave

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    Is it a true Bolt OTA box or is it a CableCARD/Antenna box using Antenna?
     
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  10. Jun 19, 2019 #70 of 525
    NashGuy

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    Hmm, OK. Interesting. This to me sounds less like a UI change and more like a new Pluto TV-like app/service. I guess they're not mutually exclusive, though. The new free ad-supported linear streaming channels might simply appear alongside the CableCARD-authenticated cable channels in the TiVo Hydra UI (e.g. grid guide, etc.). And the free streaming VOD content would likewise just appear alongside whatever other VOD sources that TiVo presents. I imagine the user could go into TiVo's settings to turn off the free TiVo streaming source completely if they wanted.

    Everyone is getting in on free ad-supported streaming TV these days, so it makes sense that TiVo might try too, I guess. Or maybe they're just taking someone else's service (e.g. Pluto TV, Xumo TV) and baking it into the TiVo UI? I know that LG smart TVs have done this with Xumo TV for years, integrating their free linear OTT channels alongside the TV tuner's free OTA channels via a feature LG calls "Channel Plus".
     
  11. Jun 19, 2019 #71 of 525
    davezatz

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    krkaufman

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    My assumption is retail based on the Arris model number ... MG3R, MG3-R. (The "R" meaning "Retail" ... Media Gateway 3 Retail)

    edit: Oh, right, exactly as in the PDF you linked:

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  13. Jun 19, 2019 #73 of 525
    krkaufman

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    Right.

    Like this?: Buy TiVo's New BOLT OTA, the Best Antenna DVR | Over the Air DVR


    edit: p.s. This is the statement on which my post was based:
     
  14. Jun 19, 2019 #74 of 525
    krkaufman

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    Again, I wouldn't take David Shoop's LinkedIn profile info too far given that David Shoop no longer works at TiVo.
     
  15. Jun 19, 2019 #75 of 525
    NashGuy

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    Fair enough, although as you may know, I simply enjoy hypothetical speculation based on whatever the latest rumor happens to be. ;)
     
  16. Jun 19, 2019 #76 of 525
    alarson83

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    It may be incremental, but not necessarily everyone updates for every version. The upgrade from Roamio to Bolt wasnt that huge either. The target for this among existing users may be those on roamios and premieres that may see a more marked change.
     
  17. Jun 19, 2019 #77 of 525
    Joe3

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    What market change? So far they have nothing to write about. This might be the kind of rollout you repeat only if your last rollout worked. It did not. They lost money. Only an imbecile would repeat it. TiVo needs to come up with a game changer, to attract more attention and get the general press talking, even if the game changer is more expensive to make happen, and goes over the economic sensitivity of some for awhile.
     
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  18. Jun 19, 2019 #78 of 525
    tommiet

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    I just cannot see me spending any money on any new TiVo products..... Spending my money in Las Vegas would be a better bet.
     
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    Mikeguy

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    I'm on the fence now: what they do next will be very telling for me.
     
  20. Jun 19, 2019 #80 of 525
    Mikeguy

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    I've long felt that TiVo has wasted much opportunity (and a certain revenue) from TiVo box advertising opportunities, which consumers might even like (as opposed to, for example, ads on the show pause bar).
     

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