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Their User Agreement was just modified on Tuesday, also.

Here is a comparison of the user agreements: Tivo User Agreement Update Sept 2025

The changes are primarily to reflect the fact that only a monthly subscription is available, product sales are no longer made on their website, and to remove references to an early termination fee.

They also removed the phrase "We love our products, and we hope that you will too".
 
no, your TiVo won't stop working as long as you have a subscription

TiVo has plenty of other things they do

  • they sell a streaming stick
  • they sell their own smart tv
  • they have a integration with entertainment if you have a bmw car
  • they give android tv devices to lesserknown cable companies
  • they sell guide data to companies who want it

TiVo isn't dead, just consumer habits are shifting

They also removed options to get yearly / lifetime subscription, but there are plenty of TiVos in the wild if you want one

By the way you cant transfer Series 2 TiVos into another account anymore, other TiVos can still be transfer

Don't be sad, I knew they were gonna stop selling them at some point. The TiVo edge honestly isn't a very good product, it uses a 2.5 inch hard drive and has several hardware problems including the fact that the drive will die in a couple year of use

TiVo lives, whether they keep making good products remains to be seen (I like their streaming stick but I am not using them right now, for instance... It hasn't got a firmware update in a while and isnt using the latest version of android tv)
 
no, your TiVo won't stop working as long as you have a subscription
If and when Tivo files bankruptcy the device will more or less be a doorstop.
I have been watching their stock price go lower and lower month after month this year.
I have seen this with other companies that all of a sudden file bankruptcy and are gone forever.
Most likely why Tivo has gone to monthly only plans with no refund as the doors are beginning to close.
 
If and when Tivo files bankruptcy the device will more or less be a doorstop.
There are lots of possibilities should a bankruptcy be filed[0]. The question would be what gets jettisoned during any reorganization (there are parts of the Xperi Inc. company, some of which operate under the overall TiVo subsidiary and branding, which could still have value going forward), and how long it takes for the reorganization to be complete (presuming Ch 11 and debtor in possession, and not Ch 7 liquidation, operations tend to continue as is for a time). Should the reorganization eliminate support for consumer devices (including lifetime/all-in), all those customers could join the long line of unsecured creditors, and end up with, essentially, nothing, at the end of the reorganization. But that may not be the only result. One thing is certain, in that Xperi Inc. is well aware of their market struggles and challenges, and they need formulate a plan, and to execute on it.


[0] Xperi Inc. could also spin-out some parts of the company (removing the "bad" assets from the parent). Certainly there have been statements regarding possible divestitures.
 
If and when Tivo files bankruptcy the device will more or less be a doorstop.
I have been watching their stock price go lower and lower month after month this year.
I have seen this with other companies that all of a sudden file bankruptcy and are gone forever.
Most likely why Tivo has gone to monthly only plans with no refund as the doors are beginning to close.
I think the bigger issues are for Cablecard Tivo boxes how long cable companies continue to send a QAM signal and for OTA boxes how long broadcasters continue to send a ATSC 1.0 signal. As far as guide data, I would hope if TiVo decided to stop supplying guide data while their boxes are still usable, that they would allow a third party to take over supplying the data. ReplayTV stopped selling hardware in 2005, the eventual owners of the company went bankrupt in 2015 at which time they stopped supplying guide data, but another company took over and continues to supply data.
 
That’s an over simplification of the situation with ReplayTV.

ReplayTV had an existing hack (not unlike kmttg) that allowed things like custom guide data. When “official“ guide data was suspended, a small group came together to offer - at a cost to users - a turnkey method to have access to alternative data to auto-upload it, assuming a device was using this “hack” software.
 

What is this talking about?

“While TiVo has committed to maintaining software updates for existing DVRs through at least 2027…”
 
Well., until TiVo decides to stop service, whether you have a subscription or not.
Yep. TiVo doesn't need to be bankrupt before they decide to stop the service.

At this point, the revenue from TiVo DVRs is presumably not real high and will shrink as the box sales stopped and cable companies are dropping CableCARD and/or making it hard to keep them. Any further incoming revenue will be from monthly subs and any other deals they make (e.g. advertising, selling data).

I could see TiVo stopping services on the oldest boxes (e.g. by introduction year) first and doing that until all of them stop working.
 
As far as guide data, I would hope if TiVo decided to stop supplying guide data while their boxes are still usable, that they would allow a third party to take over supplying the data.
That would take a software update from Tivo to all models that would point them to a new IP to get the guide data.
Since all models except Edge are now on MOL status I doubt that will happen.

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What is this talking about?

“While TiVo has committed to maintaining software updates for existing DVRs through at least 2027…”
What you perhaps missed is that CCN was not immune from the encrapification of almost all tech reporting, and is now far more about chasing revenue from page views and advertising based on misleading headlines and content ("The world is ending, film at 11") and spreading it far and wide. I stopped reading or viewing CCN quite some time ago, as if I want misleading information, I can always ask ChatGPT to create an article.
 
ReplayTV had an existing hack (not unlike kmttg) that allowed things like custom guide data. When “official“ guide data was suspended, a small group came together to offer - at a cost to users - a turnkey method to have access to alternative data to auto-upload it, assuming a device was using this “hack” software.
And since TiVo uses signed firmware, unless some backdoor is found in the firmware, would require TiVo engineers to develop and release and support updates to allow 3rd party guide services. If enough people want it (and are willing to pay), it could probably be negotiated (everything has a price in business), but it is not likely to be cheap.
 
That would take a software update from Tivo to all models that would point them to a new IP to get the guide data.
Since all models except Edge are now on MOL status I doubt that will happen.
Historically, TiVo has shipped new variants of their current experience to all TiVo's using that version (which avoids chasing edge cases already addressed for their remaining corporate customers). So, even though a Roamio might technically no longer be supported, as long as the Edge continues to get occasional fixed firmwares, so, probably, will the Roamio(s). Maybe. I still believe they made a fundamental mistake not embracing the RDK (and providing a TE5 skin?), rather than going Android TV for their provider customers (the RDK solution also could have been sold directly to consumers, and was already in use by Comcast and Cox and Rogers). Yes, the revenue would have been lower, but, maybe, they could still be relevant. Coulda, Shouda, Woulda.
 

What is this talking about?

“While TiVo has committed to maintaining software updates for existing DVRs through at least 2027…”
I saw that number in that article as well and was also curious about it. The article also had the uncited phrase "TiVo’s retail DVR shipments had plummeted by over 80 percent since 2019", and the incorrect statement that the TiVo Edge was introduced in 2021 (it was actually introduced in 2019). Therefore, I am assuming the article is generally inaccurate.
 
actually the TiVo service runs on HTTP. I did look into it, there isn't any HTTPS whatsoever. It would be theoretically possible to hack your own guide data into the service. however that data is encrypted

I was told that trying to circumvent the subscription is against the forum rules, however hopefully this will be ok if anyone is curious

 
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Actually you raise a valid point. I'm wasting my time on this forum holding onto nostalgia with TiVo.
Yeah, quit when you can't enjoy the nostalgia anymore.
 
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