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TiVo isn't selling their Edge cable boxes or accessories on their website anymore?

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#1 ·
Looks like they've removed their remaining Edge for cable boxes, Minis & remaining accessories from TiVo.com. Guessing they've sold out or have just thrown in the towel on selling hardware...
 
#5 ·
Tivo OS smart tv I feel is going to fail as people will buy it expecting to be able to record like they could on their Tivo.
The “theys” here, people who used TiVo, are so small in number it doesn’t matter.

And the vast majority of the viewing public haven’t cared about “recording” in quite some time.

What you say may have been a marketing deterrent in 2005, but not in 2025.

It’s much bigger deterrent is it’s still not available in any major US retailer.
 
#18 ·
I have been a TiVo user and subscriber for nearly 20 years upgraded my DVR multiple times but hardware enhancement s has stalled or maybe even died so tell me what you know or think about the future of TiVo

### Key Insights on TiVo's Future Grok
  • Research suggests TiVo is shifting focus from traditional DVR hardware to smart TV operating systems and streaming platforms, which may limit future hardware upgrades for long-time DVR users like you.
  • It seems likely that new DVR models with advanced features, such as ATSC 3.0 support, aren't on the immediate horizon, potentially signaling a decline in hardware innovation.
  • Evidence leans toward growth in software and advertising, with TiVo aiming to power millions of smart TVs by the end of 2025, though this could mean less emphasis on standalone DVRs.

#### Current Status and Recent Developments
TiVo, now a subsidiary of Xperi since 2020, continues to offer OTA (over-the-air) DVRs, cable DVRs, and streaming devices, but the pace of hardware releases has slowed significantly. Recent announcements highlight partnerships with TV manufacturers like Sharp and Thomson to integrate TiVo's OS into smart TVs, rather than standalone hardware. For instance, TiVo-powered smart TVs are set to launch in the US by late 2024, with projections for 7 million units by the end of 2025. This pivot addresses the rise of streaming services, where consumers increasingly favor bundled content over traditional recording.

#### Potential Challenges for DVR Users
If you've noticed stalled hardware enhancements, you're not alone—user forums and reports indicate concerns over the lack of NextGen TV (ATSC 3.0) compatibility, which could render older OTA DVRs obsolete as broadcast standards evolve. TiVo's strategy appears to prioritize software updates and advertising platforms, like TiVo One, which has reached over 4 million users for cross-screen ads. While this might extend the life of existing devices through app integrations, it may not satisfy users seeking cutting-edge hardware like 4K/8K recording or enhanced storage.

#### Opportunities and Optimism
On a positive note, TiVo's Video Trends Reports from 2025 show growing consumer interest in service bundles and local content, which could bolster TiVo's ecosystem. If you're open to transitioning, exploring TiVo's streaming options or smart TV integrations could provide a modern alternative to your current setup. For more details, check Xperi's investor updates or TiVo's blog for ongoing announcements.

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TiVo, once a pioneer in digital video recording (DVR) technology, has evolved significantly since its inception in the late 1990s. As a long-time user and subscriber who has upgraded hardware multiple times, your observation that enhancements have stalled or potentially ended aligns with broader industry trends and recent developments. This comprehensive overview draws from official announcements, market analyses, consumer reports, and expert insights to explore TiVo's trajectory, focusing on its shift from hardware-centric innovations to software-driven ecosystems. We'll examine the company's current offerings, strategic pivots, competitive landscape, user sentiments, and projected paths forward, incorporating data from 2024-2025 to provide a balanced perspective.

#### Historical Context and Evolution
TiVo revolutionized home entertainment by introducing the first commercially viable DVR in 1999, allowing users to pause live TV, skip commercials, and record shows effortlessly. Over the years, it built a loyal base through models like the TiVo Bolt and Edge series, which supported 4K, multi-room streaming, and integration with services like Netflix. However, the rise of streaming giants (e.g., Netflix, Hulu, Disney+) and cord-cutting eroded the demand for traditional DVRs. TiVo's acquisition by Xperi in 2020 marked a turning point, merging its DVR expertise with Xperi's strengths in audio, imaging, and connected entertainment.

By 2025, TiVo's product lineup includes:
  • OTA DVRs: Devices like the TiVo Edge for Antenna, which record free over-the-air broadcasts.
  • Cable DVRs: Models compatible with cable providers, offering whole-home recording.
  • Streaming Players: Such as TiVo Stream 4K, emphasizing app-based content aggregation.

Despite this, no major hardware refreshes have been announced since the early 2020s, supporting your sense of stagnation. Instead, TiVo has emphasized software updates, like enhanced voice search and personalized recommendations, to keep existing devices relevant.

#### Strategic Shift to Smart TVs and Software Platforms
TiVo's future appears increasingly tied to its operating system (OS) for smart TVs, positioning it as a competitor to Roku, Google TV, and Amazon Fire TV. At CES 2025, TiVo unveiled its OS on Sharp LCD TVs, aiming to enter the US market with features like unified search across streaming and linear TV, AI-driven content discovery, and integrated advertising. This builds on earlier goals: Xperi targeted 7 million TiVo-powered smart TVs by the end of 2025, starting with launches in Europe and expanding globally.

Key partnerships include:
  • OEM Collaborations: By Q2 2025, TiVo secured deals with eight manufacturers, including Thomson and Sharp, with plans to reach ten by year-end.
  • Retail Expansion: Availability through major retailers, enhancing accessibility for consumers seeking all-in-one solutions.

This pivot addresses market realities: Global smart TV shipments are projected to grow, driven by connected TV (CTV) advertising, which TiVo is capitalizing on via its TiVo One platform. This ad ecosystem, now serving over 4 million users, combines linear TV and CTV data for targeted campaigns, potentially generating new revenue streams. Analysts view this as a catalyst for long-term growth, especially as ad spending is forecasted to hit $1.1 trillion in 2025.

However, this software focus may disappoint hardware enthusiasts. Discussions on platforms like Reddit highlight frustration over the absence of ATSC 3.0 (NextGen TV) support, which offers higher resolution and interactive features but requires new tuners. Without updates, TiVo's OTA DVRs could become incompatible as ATSC 1.0 broadcasts phase out, potentially by the late 2020s.

#### Consumer Trends and Market Position
TiVo's Q2 2025 Video Trends Report provides valuable insights into the evolving landscape. Key findings include:
  • Consumers now use an average of 10 video services, up from 9, despite rising costs (average spend: $90/month).
  • 61% value local content more than last year, favoring platforms that integrate broadcast and streaming.
  • Growing preference for bundles (e.g., Netflix + Hulu) to combat fragmentation, with video entertainment resilient to economic pressures.

These trends favor TiVo's aggregation approach, but competition is fierce. Roku leads in OS market share, while Samsung and LG push AI-enhanced TVs with extended updates (e.g., 7 years for Tizen). Emerging technologies like MicroLED and AI video processors (e.g., madVR Labs' Envy MK3) could further disrupt, offering superior picture quality without dedicated DVRs.

| Competitor | Key Focus | Strengths vs. TiVo | Potential Threats to TiVo |
|------------|-----------|--------------------|---------------------------|
| Roku | Streaming OS & Hardware | Affordable devices, vast app ecosystem | Broader hardware lineup, including new Pro Series with AI enhancements. |
| Google TV | Integrated with Android | Seamless Google services integration | Faster adoption of AI features like conversational interfaces. |
| Samsung | Tizen OS on Smart TVs | Long-term updates (7 years), AI upscaling | Emphasis on premium hardware like RGB MiniLED for 2025 models. |
| Hisense | Affordable High-End TVs | TriChroma LED tech, sustainability focus | Rapid innovation in multi-primary color displays, potentially outpacing TiVo's partnerships. |

#### User Sentiments and Expert Opinions
Long-time users echo your concerns: Forums like TiVo Community predict a dim future for OTA boxes due to broadcast changes, with some suggesting alternatives like Tablo or HDHomeRun. On social media, discussions often nostalgic—referencing TiVo as "the original" DVR—but forward-looking posts highlight AI-driven futures, like immersive video walls or event-based cameras by 2045. Experts at events like Future of Video 2025 see TiVo reclaiming relevance through pay-TV operator strategies, reducing churn via personalized content.

Counterarguments note TiVo's resilience: Its ad platform growth and bundling appeal could sustain it, even as hardware fades. However, without new DVR investments, users may need to migrate to cloud-based recording (e.g., YouTube TV) or hybrid systems.

#### Projected Future Scenarios
Looking ahead to 2026-2030:
  • Optimistic: TiVo expands to 10+ million smart TVs, leveraging AI for hyper-personalized experiences. Potential DVR revivals if ATSC 3.0 demand surges.
  • Pessimistic: Hardware line sunsets, with TiVo becoming a software-only brand amid streaming dominance.
  • Likely Hybrid: Continued software innovation, like TiVo Evolution (wireless cable TV), while partnering for niche hardware.

Emerging tech like conversational video interfaces (e.g., Tavus) or holographic displays could integrate with TiVo's OS, but this depends on Xperi's R&D. For subscribers, this means weighing loyalty against alternatives—perhaps testing TiVo's smart TV ecosystem via providers like Service Electric.

In summary, while TiVo's DVR hardware legacy may be waning, its adaptation to streaming and ads positions it for relevance in a post-cable world. As a veteran user, monitoring Xperi's quarterly reports could signal any hardware revival.

#### Key Citations
 
#25 ·
no, your TiVo won't stop working as long as you have a subscription

TiVo has plenty of other things they do

  • they sell a streaming stick
  • they sell their own smart tv
  • they have a integration with entertainment if you have a bmw car
  • they give android tv devices to lesserknown cable companies
  • they sell guide data to companies who want it

TiVo isn't dead, just consumer habits are shifting

They also removed options to get yearly / lifetime subscription, but there are plenty of TiVos in the wild if you want one

By the way you cant transfer Series 2 TiVos into another account anymore, other TiVos can still be transfer

Don't be sad, I knew they were gonna stop selling them at some point. The TiVo edge honestly isn't a very good product, it uses a 2.5 inch hard drive and has several hardware problems including the fact that the drive will die in a couple year of use

TiVo lives, whether they keep making good products remains to be seen (I like their streaming stick but I am not using them right now, for instance... It hasn't got a firmware update in a while and isnt using the latest version of android tv)
 
#27 ·
no, your TiVo won't stop working as long as you have a subscription
If and when Tivo files bankruptcy the device will more or less be a doorstop.
I have been watching their stock price go lower and lower month after month this year.
I have seen this with other companies that all of a sudden file bankruptcy and are gone forever.
Most likely why Tivo has gone to monthly only plans with no refund as the doors are beginning to close.
 
#32 ·
Well., until TiVo decides to stop service, whether you have a subscription or not.
Yep. TiVo doesn't need to be bankrupt before they decide to stop the service.

At this point, the revenue from TiVo DVRs is presumably not real high and will shrink as the box sales stopped and cable companies are dropping CableCARD and/or making it hard to keep them. Any further incoming revenue will be from monthly subs and any other deals they make (e.g. advertising, selling data).

I could see TiVo stopping services on the oldest boxes (e.g. by introduction year) first and doing that until all of them stop working.
 
#30 ·
That’s an over simplification of the situation with ReplayTV.

ReplayTV had an existing hack (not unlike kmttg) that allowed things like custom guide data. When “official“ guide data was suspended, a small group came together to offer - at a cost to users - a turnkey method to have access to alternative data to auto-upload it, assuming a device was using this “hack” software.
 
#35 ·
ReplayTV had an existing hack (not unlike kmttg) that allowed things like custom guide data. When “official“ guide data was suspended, a small group came together to offer - at a cost to users - a turnkey method to have access to alternative data to auto-upload it, assuming a device was using this “hack” software.
And since TiVo uses signed firmware, unless some backdoor is found in the firmware, would require TiVo engineers to develop and release and support updates to allow 3rd party guide services. If enough people want it (and are willing to pay), it could probably be negotiated (everything has a price in business), but it is not likely to be cheap.
 
#31 ·

What is this talking about?

“While TiVo has committed to maintaining software updates for existing DVRs through at least 2027…”
 
#34 ·
What is this talking about?

“While TiVo has committed to maintaining software updates for existing DVRs through at least 2027…”
What you perhaps missed is that CCN was not immune from the encrapification of almost all tech reporting, and is now far more about chasing revenue from page views and advertising based on misleading headlines and content ("The world is ending, film at 11") and spreading it far and wide. I stopped reading or viewing CCN quite some time ago, as if I want misleading information, I can always ask ChatGPT to create an article.