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I agree with your point, i was replying to the post before yours about why didn't TiVo move away from integrated tuners. While it is not a technical hurdle i do see people objecting to the "extra box" of a headless server. DirecTV went that route with the HS17 and while most people were OK with it there were still complainers from both the extra box aspect and a client is never as responsive as an actual DVR
I think headless means there are no video outputs on the DVR, i.e. HDMI,Component/Composite/RF. I think a network tuner might affect the responsiveness of changing channels, but not affect the navigation of the user interface.
 
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I think headless means there are no video outputs on the DVR, i.e. HDMI,Component/Composite/RF. I think a network tuner might affect the responsiveness of changing channels, but not affect the navigation of the user interface.
It would depend on the capabilities of the front-end device you're using. For instance, I use the Channels app on an Apple TV 4K box as my front-end device in conjunction with a headless network OTA tuner (HDHomeRun Connect). But because the Apple TV has hardware-enabled decoding for MPEG-2 and can easily de-interlace 1080i and 480i signals in software, there's zero need for transcoding. The Apple TV and the network tuner (as well as the Mac I use for OTA DVR recordings) are all connected to the router via ethernet. Everything is fast and responsive. Live channels change in under 1 second. I really see no difference in responsiveness versus just connecting an OTA antenna straight into my LG TV and changing channels there with the LG remote.

But that's a best-case scenario. If you're using a less powerful streaming device and/or wifi connections, channels might change more slowly. And many models of Roku cannot do MPEG-2 decoding (or de-interlacing), so the only way they can work with OTA tuners is if the signal is first transcoded to progressive-scan MPEG-4, which introduces lag in channel changes and can also soften the picture a bit.
 
The DBS Talk and SatelliteGuys forums contain LOTS of posts like yours. Some of the regular posters there who seem to know everything there is to know about DirecTV indicate that most folks are better off just avoiding the HS17. Although, as I say, AT&T may have worked out the worst of its bugs by now (after 2-3 years).
And you certainly don't mind passing it on!!!! OVER THERE - OVER THERE !!!! seems to be a 'FIT' for you of much of your info!! Most of yours contains the 'I THINK' - seldom an 'I KNOW' from personal experience!

Tell us about your stuff - purchased and in everyday use!!!

***I hadn't yet seen #762 when I posted!!!

Seeing what you mention it seems it would be of little 'concern' for you regarding most of what you comment on!!

Yours is an interesting 'fit' for some but certainly ain't for me in 'rural WV'!!
 
Nope, was told to go through regular channels to get replacements. CSR's wanted $99.00 each plus shipping. I did not have the protection plan. I had to fight like hxxx to get them replaced N/C. Then they extended my commitment. I gave up shortly after that because being on the phone for hours with inept overseas CSR's was not what I wanted to do any longer. I had to go through "office of the president" to get my commitment removed and cancel service. BTW, I was a 14 year customer at the time.
Regular channels for replacements is still free.. The Protection Plan only covers shipping
 
The DBS Talk and SatelliteGuys forums contain LOTS of posts like yours. Some of the regular posters there who seem to know everything there is to know about DirecTV indicate that most folks are better off just avoiding the HS17. Although, as I say, AT&T may have worked out the worst of its bugs by now (after 2-3 years).
They dont.. They contain alot of posts from people who dont have a HS17 but like to complain about it because they cant use other recievers with it And most of the more seasoned guys there have a HS17
 
It’s open to the public today. There’s nothing to “leak”.

If they were showing something, they would be announcing it.

Typically Fridays are a poor day to do that type of thing.

We’ll see...
 
Really? I thought it was the Edge perched on a display case or a laptop, etc. cooling pad--I didn't originally think that the lower section was part of the box, lol.
You can see an LED or switch on the bottom front right if you look close up.

Truthfully I'm surprised the didn't rotate the top half 5-10 degrees to look unusual like the Bolt.

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Really? I thought it was the Edge perched on a display case or a laptop, etc. cooling pad--I didn't originally think that the lower section was part of the box, lol.
Dave mentioned that " ...the aesthetic is more Playstation....". And the playstation has a similar gap like.

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