Didn't bother to read anything but I'm sorry it's over, and yet I'm not. The recent episodes have been so unpleasant for the most part (so I've waited), and that Lex was the worst one ever. Now if you like a mean Lex, maybe he was a good one. I like a more comic Lex who isn't really that bad, like on "Supergirl". Or like Rosenbaum, who wasn't truly evil yet.

I couldn't stand to see Lois so upset, and I saw basically the same degree of grief on "Yellowstone".

 

I have mixed feelings about Lex's crying at the table. On the one hand it plays into the message the entire show was about, that no one is irredeemable or unforgivable, on the other hand, it really blunts Lex's character for me.

Except that was really about Clark, not Lex. It was happening in Clark's mind. I suspect if Lex had really been there, he would have flown into a rage and tried to strangle Clark.

 

A satisfying end to an enjoyable series. Most shows just don't know to end on a proper note and they got it right with this one. It kind of reminds me of the way they ended Six Feet Under by showing the future ending of all of the show's main characters. I thought they handled this with class and respect. The sad part is that this was essentially the end of the Arrowverse on the CW, but it was probably the time to do so. I would have liked to see them extend Stargirl for at least another season. I believe there are some new DC shows in the works so I'm looking forward to seeing them. I don't think they'll be airing on the CW, though.

 

My one complaint, and maybe it couldn't have been done differently, is maybe they could have aged our Kent kids, and not had new actors?

Maybe not, but it kind of took me out of it when they came on the screen for 5 minutes.

-smak-

 

It was...a little odd that one of the grown sons is Bitsie Tulloch's husband...(whom I recognized because he was her boyfriend on Grimm).

 

I knew he was from Grimm (on Bluesky Bitsie teased something Grimm related for the finale), but I didn't know they were married. It was already a little strange given they had played a married couple, but it is even weirder knowing now that they are a married couple.

I do wonder if he even got paid scale for the episode. He had no lines, so I think technically he was just an extra. Unless they now count facial expressions as lines. Then he got paid scale for the episode.

 

Yes, goodbye to the CW. At its height, I was watching more tv on the CW than on other networks. Now there is nothing left.

 

The Arrowverse had nearly 700 episodes! 😮

 

Did they have to go so hard in the coda? Wow, that was a good and satisfying ending, especially for a CW Arrowverse episode.

One thing they dropped the ball on, though, was Lex's hearing. A couple episodes back John Henry noticed Clark's hearing was diminishing. Then just before Lex's debate with Lois, he suddenly had superhearing. The writers were alluding to Lex somehow gaining Clark's fading power. I thought they were setting up a superfight without Lex in the suit, more on an even keel. But nope, that was the only hint then they never revisited it. Very odd.

Also odd was Tom Cavanagh's cameo within the Arrowverse as a non-Wells character.

 

I didn't get the idea that Lex was gaining Clark's powers. But I agree with you about Tom Cananaugh's cameo. It was strange seeing him in a Non-Wells role. But since this show has been kinda Arrowverse adjacent instead of full on Arrowverse, I can live with it.

 

Three more to go.

I haven't read anything yet but I just saw the one where Clark tells the world who he really is. I guess if it had to happen, well done. He just comes across as the nicest guy.

I always wished when it was Dean, and he put up a hologram of Superman so people could see both Clark and Superman at the same time, he could have justified his strong interest in superman by saying Superman saw him and decided that's who he wanted to look like.

 

I've gotten as far as the last episode that isn't the finale.

Wow, terrible things are happening.

 

I have to say they stuck the landing. There were a few things I had issue with, but overall I'm very happy with how this final season and the final episode went.

Let me get the issues out of the way first. I think due to budgetary constraints they couldn't fit in all the people they needed to in the final bits of the episode. Notably missing for me were Sam Lane (Lois's father), Tal-Rho (Superman's brother), and Clark's parents.

I thought that was General Lane, but it was Lex. Big disappointment for me.

I have mixed feelings about Lex's crying at the table. On the one hand it plays into the message the entire show was about, that no one is irredeemable or unforgivable, on the other hand, it really blunts Lex's character for me.

I admire Clark for being able to forgive Lex, but this Lex doesn't deserve forgiveness.

The rest was absolutly perfect for me. It did something no other Superman story dared do (Don't tell me about the comics since there are so many of them I don't read the comics) they gave him and Lois a definitive ending. It was heartbreaking and satisfying at the same time.

I'm not going to get into the aspect of there being an afterlife and all that. But seeing the closure of everyone was great.

It was. Sad, but it's one way to do it.

I was in the room when my mother died of breast cancer, but only because the caregiver came and called us.

Now I have to hope the aggressive treatment my 93-year-old aunt got years ago will be enough for her ...

Doomsday coming to his own realization of who he was and his realtionship to Clark and accepting what had to be done...

Not sure what happened there but I could see emotion on his face and a realization he was human after all.

I do wonder however at what is any powers Jordan and Jonathon's children have and if they pass them on to their kids and so on. If so eventually a portion of the human race will have some level of Kryptonian powers and wouldn't that make an interesting story.

Krypto the dog.... Granted just a normal golden retriever, but still.

Goodbye Superman and Lois. Goodbye Arrowverse, and finally goodbye to the CW.....

I don't like dogs and never cared that he didn't have a dog, but nice.

By the way, this is not the Arrowverse. Superman had no children when he was introduced and this show would have to be set many years after the Arrowverse episodes. Plus they eliminated parallel universes. And John Henty and his daughter and Doomsday. Plus the Arrowverse Lex was Charlie Harper's idiot brother and not nearly as threatening.

 

Did they have to go so hard in the coda? Wow, that was a good and satisfying ending, especially for a CW Arrowverse episode.

One thing they dropped the ball on, though, was Lex's hearing. A couple episodes back John Henry noticed Clark's hearing was diminishing. Then just before Lex's debate with Lois, he suddenly had superhearing. The writers were alluding to Lex somehow gaining Clark's fading power. I thought they were setting up a superfight without Lex in the suit, more on an even keel. But nope, that was the only hint then they never revisited it. Very odd.

Also odd was Tom Cavanagh's cameo within the Arrowverse as a non-Wells character.

I didn't get the idea that Lex was gaining Clark's powers. But I agree with you about Tom Cananaugh's cameo. It was strange seeing him in a Non-Wells role. But since this show has been kinda Arrowverse adjacent instead of full on Arrowverse, I can live with it.

There's nothing saying he wasn't a Wells. He could have changed his name for show business. That's head canon for me anyway.

Not the Arrowverse.

 

He appeared in a few Arrowverse episodes, so to me he's in the A-verse.

 

Or at least the A-multiverse.

 

IIRC, Supergirl was part of their multi-verse, as well. It's all Arrowverse to me.

 

I think they started out as Arrowverse-ish. Like the Superman/Lois casting was established in Supergirl.
But then the series started out like 16 years later, so it was set apart from the other shows.
Plus it was visually(like more cinematic) and tonally different from the others.
Then at some point, I think the showrunners just said they didn't want to be constrained by the Arrowverse (I don't remember if they did that at Crisis - that would be a convenient time for a reset). So they wind up recasting and reimagining Lex Luthor and stuff.

I really liked this series. Each season, I thought, "Wow, that's a good Superman story." And I thought it was a well done (but sad) finale.

 

I think they started out as Arrowverse-ish. Like the Superman/Lois casting was established in Supergirl.
But then the series started out like 16 years later

Except it was supposed to be the same year.

 

Not being in the Arrowverse is just gaslighting.

 

It seems to me that a group of shows that had literally an infinite number of universes (that they collapsed and then recreated) would logically lead one to the conclusion that this show was part of that multiverse, just one that didn't know anything about the rest of them. That's what I decided and nobody can change my mind.

 

Or a retcon, which seems to have been their intent (first it was, then it wasn't).

Retconning: How geeks gaslight each other!