FiOS systems don't need a PoE filter.

 

FiOS systems don't need a PoE filter.

To expand for those that might ask why...
Unlike a cable connection, the RG45 only goes back into the ONT in a FIOS where it's been pulled from the fibre line, as opposed to a cable system where the RG45 connects back to the local loop.

 

One less thing I have to do.
Thanks very much for the info and explanation!

 

Hi,
Although it is true that you do not need a MoCA filter on FIOS because of it's use of fiber from the ONT, you still might get a slight benefit by using one. It will then reflect back / slightly strengthen the MoCA signal and it does not interfere even if you are using coax MoCA WAN as FIOS uses a frequency which is below the filter range.
I use one for this reason, but if no MoCA issues, forget about it.

 

Hi,
Although it is true that you do not need a MoCA filter on FIOS because of it's use of fiber from the ONT, you still might get a slight benefit by using one. It will then reflect back / slightly strengthen the MoCA signal and it does not interfere even if you are using coax MoCA WAN as FIOS uses a frequency which is below the filter range.
I use one for this reason, but if no MoCA issues, forget about it.

I'm confused by the part in bold. Are you saying that the frequency that FiOS uses for MoCA signals is below the filter range? If that is what you mean, then the PoE filter wouldn't reflect MoCA signals, so it wouldn't really do anything.

 

I'm confused by the part in bold. Are you saying that the frequency that FiOS uses for MoCA signals is below the filter range? If that is what you mean, then the PoE filter wouldn't reflect MoCA signals, so it wouldn't really do anything.

Fios uses 2 moca bands. The moca WAN (between ONT and router) works at 1000 MHz which can pass through some filters (usually rated 1002 MHz), but not all.

The moca LAN runs at 1150 MHz.

I think fcfc is saying there might be a small benefit putting a filter on the line running to the ONT, just to keep the moca LAN from needlessly running up that coax. But certainly not necessary.

 

I'm confused by the part in bold. Are you saying that the frequency that FiOS uses for MoCA signals is below the filter range? If that is what you mean, then the PoE filter wouldn't reflect MoCA signals, so it wouldn't really do anything.

Hi snerd,
Big Jim has the answer, the MoCA WAN on Fios is just below the frequencies of the MoCA LAN and it is these LAN frequencies which are blocked/ handled by the filter. And no, the filter is not necessary on Fios, I just did it based on the small "reflective" benefit on the LAN side.

 

Hi guys/gals, I'm new here! Regarding the MOCA filters, I currently have FIOS and want to add a 9 port powered splitter to increase the signal strength on some of the longer lines that are going to my far bedrooms in my house that are only getting a "FAIR" signal not a "GOOD" signal like the rest of the TV boxes in my house are getting. My question is, should I get a amplified splitter that has a MOCA filter built in or not? I see some have the filter built in and some don't. If I get the amplifier that has the MOCA filter built in, will it block the upper frequencies and mess up my guide data and the widgets and all the extras? My current passive splitter from Verizon is rated for MOCA 2, and allows 5-1675 mhz to pass through. Is it OK to get the amp without the MOCA filtering built in (range goes up to 1002mhz only)? I'm thinking the other amplifier just has a MOCA filter built in, but doesn't actually allow the higher frequencies through, aka..it filters them. Do I need the upper frequencies to be allowed through to support the widgets and all the other extras that my TV boxes are using? Also, I plan on upgrading my boxes later this year, so I want to try and get an amp that will accommodate at least MOCA 2.0 or higher. I was looking at the Commscope CSMAPDU9VP (with MOCA filtering) and also the same amp/splitter but without the MOCA filtering (CSAPDU9VP). Will both of these powered splitters work with my FIOS setup and which one do you all suggest? I was going to order the CSMAPDU9VP, but I want to make sure that it won't actually block out the higher frequencies. Sorry for the long post. Thanks for your help!! I appreciate it!

 

So long as you are using the CSMAPDU9VP/MoCA unit as the first/primary splitter that comes into your home, you should be fine. The builtin MoCA filter only applies to the "in" port of the amp and allows the MoCA LAN frequencies to travel between the other ports/outputs freely. The builtin filter blocks the MoCA frequencies and reflects the MoCA frequencies back to strengthen the signals on the outputs.
I am not sure this will fix your signal strength issue or not. Do you actually need all of the out ports on that amp, if not find some 75-ohm f-type terminators and put one on any unused ports?