I believe they've changed the website already. I went to log into my account and tivo.com was not working. Found an old login link and it made me change my password.

 

The next hack is to figure out the API for guide updates and redirect to a open source location.

 

One would hope that when they do finally stop providing guide data they will at least open source the retrieval of guide data from another source. That would not expose any proprietary data, but would allow very loyal customers to continue to use their devices.

 

That would require a software update. Xperi hasn’t touched the code in so long that I’m not sure they know where it is.

 

Or maybe just an address redirect ?

 

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/tivo-dvr-cord-cutting-5a428638?reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

 

TiVo Has Sold Its Last DVR. These People Refuse to Let Go.

You can have my TiVo when you pry it from my cold dead hands [1].

[1] Or I lose service.

 

It's not really a surprise - it's sort of a push back to streaming.

Streaming music has ads and you often don't have much control over it. We called that "radio" and once we had in-home control over our music (that wasn't live), we embraced it - starting with the old Edison cylinders and ending with CDs and MP3s. We controlled the playlist, made mixtapes and such and controlled the entire experience.

Likewise, flip phones allow us to just make phone calls - we're no longer slaves to the dings of our friends posting new crap to (anti)social media.

And cameras - you take them out, push the button and done. No million of options to fix or "optimize" the photo. And many are developing artifacts that give them a certain charm no amount of endless filter scrolling can emulate.

Movies on physical media are the same - watch what you want when you want how you want. Other than the ads at the beginning of the disc (which can usually be skipped), that's it. Cloud DVRs just aren't the same, especially once they implement unskippable ads with them.

The quest for dollars has lead to en****tification of everything you touch nowadays, and the youngsters in the middle of it are just old enough to realize we weren't monetized every single minute.

 

Movies on physical media are the same - watch what you want when you want how you want. Other than the ads at the beginning of the disc (which can usually be skipped), that's it.

I used to have a rather large collection of retail SD and HD BluRay DVDs, and not a single thing that appeared before the main movie (including the FBI warning about piracy) was skippable. Not the ads, not the promos, not the trailers, nothing. The disk disabled the player's response to all input from the remote that would allow you to skip ahead before the movie on every disk.

Back when I was still working, the studio 'screener' disks I got had none of that but every retail disk did. The screeners did have my full name appear every 15 minutes or so as an overlay for a few seconds to prevent my selling or copying them. My kid got a real kick out of that.

Disney, as always, was the most obnoxious about it, loading up the head end with 15-20 minutes of garbage.

 

Cordcutting took a toll on the beloved devices, with fewer customers needing a way to record live cable programming. A boom in streaming services also meant that consumers could fast-forward and rewind TV shows or tap in to libraries of content on demand.

Article missed the biggest hit to TiVo market share ... cable companies rolling their own DVR services, and the inadequate CableCARD spec leaving third-party device manufacturers at a disadvantage as the scope of cable services expanded. (You could have your TiVo, but not access to your provider's on-demand library; or the wonders of SDV tuning and the black magic of keeping tuning adapters functioning.)

“It’s really the best consumer product ever except maybe Roku,” said Brent.

An ironic sidebar that Roku was founded by the founder of TiVo's early DVR competitor, ReplayTV, would be too much to ask.

 

the wonders of SDV tuning

SDV was sort of OK initially, but a couple of years in, TiVo decided that it would alert the TA that you had switched active tuners, the SDV enabled tuner channel you had been watching was no longer needed, and the cableco would switch you away to nothing immediately on that tuner so that when you went back to it, there was nothing there. The 30 minute buffer was flushed, and you could only get the channel back by doing a Channel Up-Channel Down to kick the TA in the butt and reacquire the channel.

The workaround was to record both tuners, but the annoyance factor kinda soured me on SDV and made the transition to streaming more palatable.

I've had to replace one TA since they became a thing. I power cycle the current one every morning at 3AM, and sometimes it comes up stupid anyway and very occasionally it forces a reboot of the Roamio Pro.

 

Like DirecTV integrated their satellite receivers with TiVo in the DirecTivo. I just loved that device.

I know it's wishful thinking on my part. But, it would be nice if the TiVo DVR software got spun off or acquired, and ported to run on other hardware paired with HDHomeRun tuners to become a Plex/Channels DVR competitor. I've been using Channels for years, but I would switch back.

DirecTV would be the obvious and best choice in my humble opinion. They’ve partnered with TiVo before, and TiVo has an Android version of their OS, so I would think it would be fairly easy and very welcome to make a DirecTiVo version of the Gemini Air!

Does Tivo still sell their little android box/stick? I use mine when I go on vacation. works just fine.

Have you had issues connecting to hotel WiFi where it requires you to log into a web page for access?

 

TiVo has an Android version of their OS, so I would think it would be fairly easy and very welcome to make a DirecTiVo version of the Gemini Air!

As has been explained elsewhere, the Android TV version that TiVo offers to operators can not be offered to the public due to licensing issues (only operators can use it).

 

I am very saddened by this. Have not used Tivo in just under a year (cable costs soared) and still miss the wonderful TiVo interface very much. Hulu, which I am using now, is nowhere near the usability and performance (and time savings!) that TiVo provided. Amen.

 

Finally happened?!?! Wow. Writing was on the wall even when the Edge launched.

Not only have to worry about guide data but also the cable company moving to IPTV-only distribution which the retail Tivos aren't setup to parse.

Not sure if OTA Tivos gotta worry about new OTA format?

 

Not sure if OTA Tivos gotta worry about new OTA format?

OTA TiVos cannot receive ATSC 3.0 signals so if your area demises 1.0, an OTA TiVo will no longer work.