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TiVo wasn't on the show floor, but rather, they were tucked away in a room on the 1st floor of the Convention Center.

I met with most of those guys yesterday -- even briefly met TiVo Ted. Still not a whole bunch of news.

The Edge has a faster processor than the bolt and much better better thermal management. They were even more sketchy about the TiVo+ Service. I got the feeling that the channels they would be adding are not the normal Cable TV channels, but rather some other obscure stuff.

Perhaps I can get some more info today.
Thanks for the scoop! As for TiVo Plus, based on what you're saying, perhaps it'll be the same kind of thing as LG's Channel Plus, which simply appends live-streaming channels supplied by Xumo TV to the OTA dial. In the case of TiVo Plus, it would add to either your OTA or your CableCARD-delivered channels. But unlike LG's implementation, I would expect TiVo to allow users to pause and do trick play with those streaming channels. Whether or not they could actually be recorded, though, I dunno. Frankly, I've never seen any of those live streaming channel platforms like Xumo or Pluto TV even post multi-hour schedules. They just tend to show you what's airing now and for maybe the next couple hours on their grid.
 
What I'd like to see (which isn't going to happen) would be firmware based tuners that are reconfigurable on the fly using an FPGA to either the ATSC 1.0 or 3.0 standard. It would be much more practical to how things are changing.

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So basically the Edge is what the Bolt should have been. Doesn't overheat, not a weird shape/color, and supports Dolby Vision/Atmos.
Too bad it doesn't support a 3.5" hard drive. That is Bolt/Edge's biggest Achilles heel IMO.
 
Except that, my Bolt doesn't overheat, and I like its shape and color and find the Edge's rectangle-on-a-rectangle a bit blah and odd (but it's fine enough). ;)
If it looks like a cable box, I want back up buttons and a clock on the front. Otherwise the Bolt form factor is fine. :)
 
Since computers have been moving away for towers towards laptops, I don't think you'll even see a 3.5 hard drive within 5 years.
PC desktop computers will never go extinct since a laptop with a similar CPU or GPU will never run consistently as fast and be regularly throttled back in speed to conserve both power and minimize the need for heat dissapation. Therefore the need for 3.5" drives will never go away.

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PC desktop computers will never go extinct since a laptop with a similar CPU or GPU will never run consistently as fast and be regularly throttled back in speed to conserve both power and minimize the need for heat dissapation. Therefore the need for 3.5" drives will never go away.
While I agree that 3.5" drives will still be around well beyond 5 years from now, nothing lasts forever. The time will come when a 3.5" form factor will seem, in hindsight, to be ridiculously bulky and cumbersome compared to whatever superceeds it. There is a reason that 8" floppy disks were replaced by 5" inch floppy disks, which gave way to 3" floppy disks, which are now pretty much obsolete.
 
PC desktop computers will never go extinct since a laptop with a similar CPU or GPU will never run consistently as fast and be regularly throttled back in speed to conserve both power and minimize the need for heat dissapation. Therefore the need for 3.5" drives will never go away.

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Outside of gaming there is no call for towers, and the low end ones are really laptops without screens. (have a look inside one). Entry level tower market is dying. As the companies go to remote work whole offices have dumped their towers for laptops.
 
Outside of gaming there is no call for towers, and the low end ones are really laptops without screens. (have a look inside one). Entry level tower market is dying. As the companies go to remote work whole offices have dumped their towers for laptops.
Kind of a gross simplification since a laptop CPU is not exactly the same as a desktop CPU for reasons I stated earlier. There is also the video editing and 3d animation market which require large 4k screens and the appropriate GPU and CPU power to compress, decompress and render images. It's more cost effective to do this with a desktop than a laptop with a docking station.

I will agree the market for desktops is becoming smaller by the day but it never go obsolete.

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Kind of a gross simplification since a laptop CPU is not exactly the same as a desktop CPU for reasons I stated earlier. There is also the video editing and 3d animation market which require large 4k screens and the appropriate GPU and CPU power to compress, decompress and render images. It's more cost effective to do this with a desktop than a laptop with a docking station.

I will agree the market for desktops is becoming smaller by the day but it never go obsolete.
Desktops are way big in the business world, where there may be no need for a laptop for desk work and where the savings can be way significant.
 
Outside of gaming there is no call for towers, and the low end ones are really laptops without screens. (have a look inside one). Entry level tower market is dying. As the companies go to remote work whole offices have dumped their towers for laptops.
I use a tower, but I also have two 4TB RAIDs inside my PC because I get a LOT of large video files for my job.
 
Desktops are way big in the business world, where there may be no need for a laptop for desk work and where the savings can be way significant.
I haven't had a physical PC at my desk for at least five years. There's a little terminal box that accesses my VDI.
 
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