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Just moved to a co-op in Naples Florida and could not get the required cable card from Comcast Xfinity as this community is now all EPON TV and internet and it cannot support cable cards which means all TiVos are rendered useless (other than watching what you recorded in your old address). Filed FCC complaint because thought cable providers could not force you to use their equipment and received a nice call from their government compliance person who said it is what it is and they will never give this community a cable card again. TIVO needs to address this by either forcing Comcast Xfinity to create a workaround (like the old tuning adapters Cablevision Optimum required)or TIVO needs to create a workaround. TIVO saying they would be happy to sell me a Roku type stick instead is not the answer. The Xfinity X1 box I am forced to use is works like a TIVO 1.0 from a hundred years ago (slow with few features and very unpredictable). This will destroy TIVO if it spreads nationwide and it is not addressed.
 

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The FCC mandate to support CableCARDs is no more thanks to decisions by the current FCC administrator.
The answer is that if a local cable company decides to no longer support CableCARD you need to move to another company that does.
If you don't have another provider available that shows the problem with monopolies in markets.

Is Buying A TiVo A Safe Purchase With The Cable Card FCC Mandate Gone?
 

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The FCC mandate to support CableCARDs is no more thanks to decisions by the current FCC administrator.
The answer is that if a local cable company decides to no longer support CableCARD you need to move to another company that does.
If you don't have another provider available that shows the problem with monopolies in markets.

Is Buying A TiVo A Safe Purchase With The Cable Card FCC Mandate Gone?
Understood that the FCC mandate for cable cards was eliminated Sept 2020 BUT does anyone know if a previous mandate that cable companies "cannot force you to use their equipment" is still in effect? Even if Comcast Xfinity gives you the box that works on EPON at no charge that means your bill could be lower without their box. So, are they allowed to force you to use their equipment like in the old days?
 

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Understood that the FCC mandate for cable cards was eliminated Sept 2020 BUT does anyone know if a previous mandate that cable companies "cannot force you to use their equipment" is still in effect? Even if Comcast Xfinity gives you the box that works on EPON at no charge that means your bill could be lower without their box. So, are they allowed to force you to use their equipment like in the old days?
Not a lawyer but I think the use of EPON fiber places them in the exception-zone with Dish and DirecTV regarding cablecards/customer owned equipment. Only reason VZW/Frontier offers it on their FiOs TV is because they use RFoG, so it's basically QAM cable anyway.
 

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Well, I was going to make a more serious suggestion to wait for the new administration and then send a request to the FCC to reinstate the cable card requirement(*).

(*) I'm actually against government mandates in most cases, but IF we're going to give them a government sanctioned monopoly, THEN having requirements is reasonable.
 

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I’m trying to get a new promotion with Xfinity and they are telling me cableCard equipment is not eligible for promotions and that I’d need a new box from them and would have to return the cards.

Edit: the retention teams could get me a promo, but the web site and Twitter team could not.
 

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I know this is overly ???? but you'd think all these cable companies would try and make it easy for users to use their services no matter what equipment - instead they are driving customers away with "cord cutters" - but then again who know why companies do what they do
 

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I know this is overly ???? but you'd think all these cable companies would try and make it easy for users to use their services no matter what equipment - instead they are driving customers away with "cord cutters" - but then again who know why companies do what they do
They have no incentive to support CableCARDs when they can make more renting cable boxes and DVRs
 

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We lucked out with Comcast's RFoG in our community.
This is what our condo building has. So luckily for me, all my TiVo equipment works fine. And it's a ****load of TiVos: two Roamios, four Minis.

Also, we get blazing fast Internet, usually in the 600-800 range (quick look on Google Home app: 805 Mbps).
 

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The number of retail-box cablecards is likely such a low blip on the overall numbers that they don't factor in any kind of impact on overall total customer numbers - yet certainly have a disproportionate impact on costs for the amount of customer service they need.
 

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Any info about when Xfinity will be 'upgrading' networks other places and terminating cable cards (TIVOs)? Is this a function of upgrading to optical cable networks (which will probably take a long time)? I'm having trouble with my TIVO, and thinking about upgrading. If I do, and 6 months from now we get a giddy announcement from Xfinity that they have wonderful news (that basically just disables the TIVO) it will be a little chilly around my sweet spouse for a while.
 
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