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Wireless G vs. Wireless N for Series 3

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This issue was briefly touched on in some other threads, but I don't recall seeing a firm resolution:

Specifically for the Series 3 (the original box labeled "Series 3", not the "HD"), is using the TiVo 802.11g adapter faster for transfers than using the Ethernet port (either to wired Ethernet, or using the TiVo 802.11n bridge)? The issue is whether the CPU processing that is offloaded onto the TiVo G adapter made it faster than using the Ethernet port on that particular box.
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This issue was briefly touched on in some other threads, but I don't recall seeing a firm resolution:

Specifically for the Series 3 (the original box labeled "Series 3", not the "HD"), is using the TiVo 802.11g adapter faster for transfers than using the Ethernet port (either to wired Ethernet, or using the TiVo 802.11n bridge)? The issue is whether the CPU processing that is offloaded onto the TiVo G adapter made it faster than using the Ethernet port on that particular box.
I saw in a recent post that someone claimed that they did not see any difference in using N versus G but I'm not sure if they were specifically using the Tivo adapters. I use wireless bridges connected to the Tivo ethernet port for two of my boxes and wired for the other. I'm using wireless G throughout and I'm happy with the transfers speeds. I recommend wired if that is a reasonable option but wireless G should work well for you.
I saw in a recent post that someone claimed that they did not see any difference in using N versus G but I'm not sure if they were specifically using the Tivo adapters. I use wireless bridges connected to the Tivo ethernet port for two of my boxes and wired for the other. I'm using wireless G throughout and I'm happy with the transfers speeds. I recommend wired if that is a reasonable option but wireless G should work well for you.
What speeds do you get with G? I get just over 2 megs/sec which means I am far from using the full 54 megs it's advertised to provide. The way I see it adding a bigger pipe won't speed things up since the pipe isn't the bottleneck.
What speeds do you get with G? I get just over 2 megs/sec which means I am far from using the full 54 megs it's advertised to provide. The way I see it adding a bigger pipe won't speed things up since the pipe isn't the bottleneck.
I haven't checked out the actual transfer speeds but I suspect that we're in the same ballpark. As I indicated, I can transfer HD video from the Premiere to the S3 and watch in real time but transferring to the computer on the wired connection is actually slower than real time for HD content. Ironically, the wireless transfer actually goes from the Premiere to the wireless router and then up the wired connection to the S3. Longer path but shorter transfer times.
I don't think any official TiVo application can take advantage of the difference in speed between G and N. A difference in the area of coverage is possible and someone may have a third party application that would benefit but I don't know what that would be.
Transferring from the Tivo to the computer should be slower than going from Tivo to Tivo from what I understand. Going Tivo to Tivo does not require re encoding the signal as it does to the PC.
Transferring from the Tivo to the computer should be slower than going from Tivo to Tivo from what I understand. Going Tivo to Tivo does not require re encoding the signal as it does to the PC.
That was my suspicion. I rarely keep any recordings so it isn't a big issue.
Transferring from the Tivo to the computer should be slower than going from Tivo to Tivo from what I understand. Going Tivo to Tivo does not require re encoding the signal as it does to the PC.
But I still doubt you'll get 54 megs going Tivo to Tivo. I could be wrong.
This issue was briefly touched on in some other threads, but I don't recall seeing a firm resolution:

Specifically for the Series 3 (the original box labeled "Series 3", not the "HD"), is using the TiVo 802.11g adapter faster for transfers than using the Ethernet port (either to wired Ethernet, or using the TiVo 802.11n bridge)? The issue is whether the CPU processing that is offloaded onto the TiVo G adapter made it faster than using the Ethernet port on that particular box.
My experience with 2 S2 DTs (which have an Ethernet port), one using the Tivo G wireless talking to a Linksys WRT-54G and the other hardwired to that same router, both uploading to a PC running TiVo Desktop, is that it's pretty much 6 of one, half dozen of the other.

The faster CPU in S3s and S4s may give the Ethernet port the edge, but probably not by a lot.

N adapter to N router I couldn't say.
I went to an N bridge (using dd-wrt) from the TiVo 802.11G USB dongle due to issues when streaming Netflix movies and the issues went away. I cannot provide any benchmarks or other data, but making this change appeared to fix my issues streaming HD content from Netflix. You can pick up a cheap N router to dd-wrt on newegg and that's my recommendation.
I went to an N bridge (using dd-wrt) from the TiVo 802.11G USB dongle due to issues when streaming Netflix movies and the issues went away. I cannot provide any benchmarks or other data, but making this change appeared to fix my issues streaming HD content from Netflix. You can pick up a cheap N router to dd-wrt on newegg and that's my recommendation.
Sounds like the G router wasn't that good or needed to be adjusted since many people stream satisfactorily with G. I for one do it on a premier with no problems.
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