Wow. Angry guy.Billy66 said:Even if the NDS box is better and that's a BIG if, there will always be a good market for it to the Fanboys here that have their head in the sand.
Given that it is more likely to not be superior right away, that fanboy market should be even stronger.
Considering that current Directv customers can call retention and get an HD Tivo for $100-$200 I'd go a head and get one now. I actually got a second one just so I'd have a spare. I activated the new one and took my old one off my account. Most of what I watch comes in from my TV antenna. I'll be using HD Tivo for years to come.InertiaGirl said:I'm actually one of those people who really wants to keep TiVo, but I won't get an HDTV for at least a few months. I'm starting to panic now and wonder if I should get one of the current boxes now, even before I have the TV for it. So, depending on my ability to do that, I may end up being one of those people in the market for an older model even after the DirecTV non-TiVo box comes out.
It seems like "brand loyalty" might be a bad thing in your opinion. If so, I have a different opinion. Tivo has proven since 1999 to be the only reliable PVR interface that has a feature set that contains the most desirable features. Loyalty to Tivo based on that makes perfect sense, and is based solely on NOT having one's head in the sand.Billy66 said:Oh, I'm not angry, I meant it half seriously and half tongue in cheek. I just expect that "Brand Loyalty" to keep the value high. Don't get me wrong Abmagfab. I'm not angry at all
Maybe I just don't have the same definition of "fanboy", but I think it means people who vigorously (if not blindly) follow their allegiance to celebrity or technology, regardless of blatant evidence being available as to why they should probably not. It's a bit similar to Stockholm syndrome, something I have regularly accused many DISH PVR owners of being under the influence of (and probably unfairly). Or maybe we agree on that one.Billy66 said:I think my use of the term fanboy has caused my posts to be misunderstood. I wasn't saying that it's good or that it's bad. Just that it is and therefore I think that resale of the box will remain high because there are a large group who will not consider anything else regardless of it's performance...I only meant that because there is a rabid fan base, resale will likely remain high. Two posters in this thread have said as much. They are now looking for a backup just in case.
Anyway, I didn't intend offense, I was just trying to support my opinion that resale would remain high.
I have noticed the change in your tone and had assumed you had gone negative (or maybe to the dark side). Interesting to hear you apparently haven't.Billy66 said:Thanks Tyrone.
I will say that my posting tone has changed over the last several months and it could be gleaned from those months alone that I'm anti TiVo or something like that. I'm not, not at all. I couldn't wait to get my first 14 hour TiVo back in 99 and I've enjoyed TiVo in one variety or another everyday of my life since.
It seems lately though that my role here, the one I've chosen anyway, is one to temper the "TiVo is the greatest and always will be" mantra. I have a lot of really positive things to say about the company and of course the product, but there are so many others that fill that role here, so I don't duplicate it. Thus I'm finding myself offering the counterpoint much more regularly.
Anyway, I've enjoyed this place for years (since 99 under another username) and I think that will continue.
People throw this around like its actually easy to do. I called D* several times. The best price I was every offered was $399 plus a few programming concessions. I moved to Comcast.Runch Machine said:Considering that current Directv customers can call retention and get an HD Tivo for $100-$200 I'd go a head and get one now. I actually got a second one just so I'd have a spare. I activated the new one and took my old one off my account. Most of what I watch comes in from my TV antenna. I'll be using HD Tivo for years to come.
Is there even a remote possibility that the guide data would be taken out of the stream? That would render the HR10-250 useless and IMHO D* taking that step when they are signing people up for two year contracts could be grounds for a lawsuit.Lee L said:Even then, you would still use it for OTA as long as there was guide data in the stream.
I started this process already with an email and they just told me about the $200 rebate and 6 months of free HD. I'm not getting the TV for another month so I'll take it easy for a while before I really try negotiating. I may be in a tough spot since we don't get Comcast here, just Cox cable, and I don't think they're offering anything as attractive as the Comcast deals. But this is wandering off topic.Runch Machine said:Considering that current Directv customers can call retention and get an HD Tivo for $100-$200 I'd go a head and get one now. I actually got a second one just so I'd have a spare. I activated the new one and took my old one off my account. Most of what I watch comes in from my TV antenna. I'll be using HD Tivo for years to come.