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So I want to go out and buy my first TiVo, but looking at the TIVO upgrade instructions site I see that there seems to be a handful of different manufacturers (Toshiba, Pioneer, etc) and different models within the brands. I want the latest and greatest. Which one do I buy? Does it matter? Is it all software driven?

(yes, I know, Series 3 is on the way, but I don't have HD).

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phlsteve said:
So I want to go out and buy my first TiVo, but there seem to be a handful of different and different models within the brands. I want the latest and greatest. Which one do I buy?

(yes, I know, Series 3 is on the way, but I don't have HD).

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Well Sony no longer makes TiVos, so you can rule out that one. ;)

Other than that it probably is more important to figure out what kind of configuration you want, the brand isn't really that important. If you are going for a stand alone unit (not a DirecTV integrated unit) the first thing to decide is if you want to have an integrated DVD recorder. I have a Humax with a DVD recorder and like it quite a bit, but it is more expensive then units without the DVD recorder.

After that the only thing you have to decide is how big of a hard drive you want. The number of hours quoted is for basic quality, at the best recording quality you will only get about a third of that time.

HTH.

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I don't believe Pioneer has a current TiVo model either. So the only companies currently manufacturing stand alone DVRs with TiVo are TiVo, Humax and Toshiba .

TiVo and Humax make hard drive only models (without DVD player/Burners) no real difference other than the size of the hard drives. All require TiVo permium subscription service for 1 year minimum and come with the $150 rebates. They do not work without the TiVo permium service.

Humax also makes a model with a DVD player/Burner. This model requires TiVo subscription service for 1 year minimum and comes with the $150 rebate. They do not work without the TiVo permium service.

Toshiba makes models with DVD player/Burners. Main difference is they come with a very watered down service called TiVo Basic and do not require the premium TiVo subscription service, however to get the $150 rebate you have to subscribe too the TiVo premium service for 1 year minimum.

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Yes, the TiVo service is software driven, but there are some physical differences between the units. As you can see by my signature below, I have 2 units, one Sony SVR-3000 and one TiVo branded unit. Although Sony no longer manufacturers any TiVo products you may be able to find one on eBay, or Craig's list, etc. I mention this for 2 reasons. First, the remote on the Sony is superior by far. Second, the chip used to decode the cable signal seems to be of higher quality in my Sony unit.

First, the remote. The buttons are well placed and respond well to the touch. They are in a logical place. Without moving my hand, I can pretty much access all of the important buttons. However, on the TiVo remote, in order to change channels, I need to slide my hand all the way to the bottom, punch the numbers, then find the micro "enter" button. Also, the Sony has different buttons for up, down, left, right. This avoids some "fat finger" confusion that you may find on the TiVo branded remote, where all of those functions are on 1 large button, and the remote responds based on the side of the button you push. The Sony remote is certainly a better design in my opinion. Additionally, the Sony unit has buttons on the front of the unit, to control all the functions (in case you lose the remote), while the TiVo unit requires the remote since it has no buttons on the front of the unit.

Second, the chip used for processing the incoming cable signal seems to be better on the Sony. Each of my TiVo's are on different TV's (of similar quality) in different rooms. The Sony TiVo produces a better picture that the TiVo unit. In the past, more technically sophisticated people have told me that this is due to the chip. I do not know if this is actually true or not, but it does make some sense considering Sony has the reputation for high quality products.

Whatever route you eventually go, you should be able to upgrade to a larger hard drive. Also, the Sony unit that I am referring to is the SVR-3000.
 

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Second, the chip used for processing the incoming cable signal seems to be better on the Sony. Each of my TiVo's are on different TV's (of similar quality) in different rooms. The Sony TiVo produces a better picture that the TiVo unit. In the past, more technically sophisticated people have told me that this is due to the chip. I do not know if this is actually true or not, but it does make some sense considering Sony has the reputation for high quality products.
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I'm a comcast customer and my cable requires a digital cable box. I suppose this is a question for comcast, but will the TiVo replace a digital cable box altogether? That would be very handy.
 

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I'm a comcast customer and my cable requires a digital cable box. I suppose this is a question for comcast, but will the TiVo replace a digital cable box altogether? That would be very handy.
No. TiVo will not replace a digital cable box. It requires an analog signal. TiVo can control a cable box with an Infrared (IR) blaster, or in some cases, a serial cable.
 
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