Oh, my 2 OTA Edge are the 2 tuner 500GB model which is still being sold, for now. But how about the 2TB 4 tuner OTA model? Neither Tivo or Channel Master is selling that model anymore. So how would warranties/extended care/replacement go for the 2TB OTA model? I kind of think Edge is not being manufactured anymore, possibly even the cable model. Though Tivo still has cable models in stock, for sale and I assume warranty/continual care replacement. For sure if I bought a cable model it would be "new" as there is no continual care for refurb/renewed. And the cable model with lifetime is still pretty expensive......................