[PaJo]

There are simple ways to eliminate microvision, such as using the Sima video enhancers , some dvd recorders such as the Lite-On actually have firmware hacks that eliminate it. I don't record a lot of DTV shows on dvd but so far have not found anything that is protected by macrovison. I did not try to record any PPV becasue we usually wait until the movies come on the subscription channels. I found that with Tivo we really don't need to even consider making dvd recordings, usually by time we feel like watching the program again the Tivo suggestions have already found it and recorded it again.