[megazone]

THat's such a huge diff, it can't be right...

No, that's right. It is the difference between an internal file copy (HDD to DVD) and having to play the video out the outputs and have it re-recorded on an external recorder, which must happen in real time.

Some DVD recorders have drives themselves, so you record to the drive on that system, then it does the copy to the DVD. But there is still the need to play the shows in realtime.

 

[HDTiVo]

I am considering buying a DVDR-TiVo for its ability to output component 480p and digital audio. I'd like to hook it up to an HDTV and see excellent quality 16x9 anamorphic mpegs.

I am hoping it will play 5.1 DD audio from uploaded mpegs through the digital out.

 

[sik209]

i dont really need thed dvd, because all i want is ipod video

 

[dgrrr]

Some DVD recorders have drives themselves, so you record to the drive on that system, then it does the copy to the DVD. But there is still the need to play the shows in realtime.

"the need to play the show in realtime" refers to transferring from Tivo HD to non-tivo HD using analog cables, right? (rather than burning the dvd) And this again is the encoding issue?

I will assume that ONCE the show is on the HD Of the non-tivo unit, it can burn the DVD at the faster speed, like the integrated Tivo DVD burn? (20 mins)

And that most modern non-tivo units (e.g. DVRs, and HDD DVD REcorders) CAN transfer data to each other digitally, i.e. faster than realtime, via usb & firewire cables?

Also -- can you confirm if these basic assumptions are correct?
(a) a TIVO box (with or without DVD recorder) is a particular brand of DVR (aka PVR) whose hardware is specifically built to work with the Tivo subscription service
(b) a non-Tivo DVR wont' work with the Tivo service
(c) a Tivo box won't work with (record) a non-TIvo signal (?guess?)
(d) HDD DVD Recorders are not DVRs

 

[megazone]

"the need to play the show in realtime" refers to transferring from Tivo HD to non-tivo HD using analog cables, right? (rather than burning the dvd) And this again is the encoding issue?

Yes.

I will assume that ONCE the show is on the HD Of the non-tivo unit, it can burn the DVD at the faster speed, like the integrated Tivo DVD burn? (20 mins)

Correct, speed will depend on the unit.

And that most modern non-tivo units (e.g. DVRs, and HDD DVD REcorders) CAN transfer data to each other digitally, i.e. faster than realtime, via usb & firewire cables?

No. Actually, *most* such units don't support transfers to another box at all. Some will, but most do not.

Also -- can you confirm if these basic assumptions are correct?
(a) a TIVO box (with or without DVD recorder) is a particular brand of DVR (aka PVR) whose hardware is specifically built to work with the Tivo subscription service
(b) a non-Tivo DVR wont' work with the Tivo service
(c) a Tivo box won't work with (record) a non-TIvo signal (?guess?)
(d) HDD DVD Recorders are not DVRs

a - true
b - true
c - There is no such thing as a 'TiVo signal' or 'non-TiVo Signal'. TiVo records from antenna (NTSC) or analog cable using the internal tuner, or an external cable box or satellite receiver. Same as just about every other DVR. The difference is this programming guide and the software.
d - false A Digital Video Recorder is any video recorder than records video using digital encoding (MPEG2 usually). Nearly all of these record to a hard drive. A HDD recorder is a DVR.