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Christmas (aka Holiday) Greetings:

I have recorded several football games on a SA2 TIVO and want to archive them to DVD. I did a test of one game as follows:
The TIVO is connected to an Adaptec hardware mpeg2 encoder via component cables then to the computer via USB2.0. I used WinDVR3 to capture to my hard drive then used Screenblast MovieStudio 3.0 to cut out all the commercials. I then rendered the video in MPEG2 and it came out at almost 8Gb. The game was a bit over 3 hours long. Now I am stuck. I have a single layer drive so I am space limited. My questions are:

1. Is there an easier way?

2. How can I compress or fit the file to a single DVD?

3. Is the file size about right or did I do something wrong to casue it to be so large?

4. Should I be using different software?

Thanks

gavin
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The easier way is to buy a $100 standalone DVD recorder and run it to there. Doen't cut commercials, but it will cut your own time to a fraction of the amount you are spending. As far as file size, your DVD rendering program should allow you to choose from different levels of quailty, and you should be able to find one that creates a small enough file. On a DVD recorder, you also can choose quality levels (kind of like the old VCR SP LP and EP settings), and some (all?) recorders will tell you in advance how much time is available. Some even automatically set the recording quality to fit your specific program on a disk.
That resultant size is about right. To put that all on one DVD you will suffer badly with the PQ.

You need to use your authoring software to split the show into two parts. Maybe each half on a separate DVD will work. That software should work fine since you were able to cut out the commercials. Keep your current full game and then cut the second half and save in a separate file. Then reload the whole thing and cut off the first half and save that. Then burn the two.
You can use DVDShrink to put it onto a single layer disk. Nero recode should also work.
ClemSole said:
You can use DVDShrink to put it onto a single layer disk. Nero recode should also work.
I've used both, for various project with great success. But there's nothing easier than buying the stand alone unit for copying to DVD. The only thing you will lose in the case of a stand alone is the ability to download in 5.1 DD sound (I don't have HD, so I don't know if you can do that, but DVDs inherently aren't HD anyway). Mine records in DD 2.0.
To amplify on the standalone DVD recorder a bit:

1) If you get one with a hard drive, you will have the ability to do edits before burning to DVD disc. Hard drive units cost more though.

2) Look for a DVD recorder that will do 'variable' record mode (my Panasonic calls it "Flexible Record") - you get to specify the recording length - you're not tied to the fixed 1,2,4 or 6 hrs per disc. That way, if you have something that runs 2hrs 10mins it comes out nearly as good as SP (2 hr) mode and wastes no space on the disc.
I love my hard drive dvd burner. Editing is a breeze. So if you have the money and space for it, I'd do it.
goony said:
To amplify on the standalone DVD recorder a bit:

1) If you get one with a hard drive, you will have the ability to do edits before burning to DVD disc. Hard drive units cost more though.

2) Look for a DVD recorder that will do 'variable' record mode (my Panasonic calls it "Flexible Record") - you get to specify the recording length - you're not tied to the fixed 1,2,4 or 6 hrs per disc. That way, if you have something that runs 2hrs 10mins it comes out nearly as good as SP (2 hr) mode and wastes no space on the disc.
I agree with goony, an external standalone DVR recorder is the best way to go, but then again the cost of a good one with a hard drive is a little hard to justify.

I have been researching DVR records off and on for the last month or two and I find all of the options available a little confusing. I actually believe I just might buy a CHEAP LITEON model at Costco, because Costco has a great return policy, the LITEON is very cheap, records to all formats, and LITEON is actually a major player in the recordable DVD marketplace, both for standalone recorders and computers. In fact SONY and HP, and numerous other brands have bought and remarketed LITEON DVD recorders in the computer marketplace.

The LITEON DVD recorder at Costco is less than $130 (everyday price).
RoadKyng said:
1. Is there an easier way?
Get a DVD recorder with a hard drive. They're in the $300 range nowadays, sometimes even less.

You can record to the hard drive, edit, and burn to DVD.
can I edit out commercials using the Pioneer DVR810H(DVD recorder with Tivo built-in and 80GB hard drive)? or do I have to use a standard DVD recorder with a hard drive? thanks
bnm81002 said:
can I edit out commercials using the Pioneer DVR810H(DVD recorder with Tivo built-in and 80GB hard drive)? or do I have to use a standard DVD recorder with a hard drive? thanks
I haven't heard good reviews of the Pioneer DVD Recorder with TiVo.

In addition, it costs somewhere between $550 and $700, and is a standard TiVo with one tuner and if you want 14 days of scheduling the same monthly cost. There is a TiVo with DVD Record forum available, which might help you with this.
I've had it for over a year now but haven't tried to use it to edit things out, maybe someone that has this unit have tried to do editing with it?
bnm81002 said:
I've had it for over a year now but haven't tried to use it to edit things out, maybe someone that has this unit have tried to do editing with it?
See the TiVo with DVD forum.

DVD Tivo Forum
My Dad has a DTivo and is interested in one of these. If he buys a DVD recorder with a HD will that work with his DTivo?

He'd like to be able to edit out the commercials before burning to DVD.
bluebeetle said:
My Dad has a DTivo and is interested in one of these. If he buys a DVD recorder with a HD will that work with his DTivo?

He'd like to be able to edit out the commercials before burning to DVD.
Yes. It will work with his DTiVo.
Anyone know a way to get the R10 recordings onto an iPod with Video with Mac support?????? I know the stand alone Tivo's are working on this now for MAC...
note: any dvd burner with tivo built in will never edit commercials.
rnwjr said:
Anyone know a way to get the R10 recordings onto an iPod with Video with Mac support?????? I know the stand alone Tivo's are working on this now for MAC...
Option 1:

Directly record to computer with capture device, convert to iPod format.

Option 2:

Record to DVD with DVD recroder, rip DVD on computer, convert to iPod format.
lmk911 said:
Yes. It will work with his DTiVo.
So he'll be able to take something he's recorded from the DTivo, edit out the commercials and then burn to DVD?
bluebeetle said:
So he'll be able to take some he's recorded from the DTivo, edit out the commercials and then burn to DVD?
Yes, if he has a DVD recorder with a HD.

Here are the steps:

1. Copy DTiVo to HD (hard drive) - real time recording using Save to VCR

2. Edit out commercials, etc. on HD

3. Copy HD edited version to DVD -R/RW or +R/RW

4. Finalize DVD -R/RW.
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