[Pokemon_Dad]

Does TiVo no longer allow an opt-out of the pre-roll ads?

Until the next software update, anyway. And there's at least some transition time when you don't get the ads but you do get the arrows hanging there in space for a while before each show.

Also in TE3 there are no in-guide ads, I've tweaked the Discovery Bar to the point it doesn't seem like advertising, and we're using Fire TV for streaming.

When our TE3 TiVo goes, we will switch entirely over to Channels DVR for OTA, TVE, and/or cable. That system is already set up and working well here.

 

[Tony_T]

Until the next software update, anyway. And there's at least some transition time when you don't get the ads but you do get the arrows hanging there in space for a while before each show.

Also in TE3 there are no in-guide ads, I've tweaked the Discovery Bar to the point it doesn't seem like advertising, and we're using Fire TV for streaming.

When our TE3 TiVo goes, we will switch entirely over to Channels DVR for OTA, TVE, and/or cable. That system is already set up and working well here.

Until TiVo gets around to putting the pre-roll ads on TE3
Have you heard that TiVo is pulling everyone out of the opt-out in the next software update? Link please.
(..and that arrow 'hangs there' for about a tenth of a sec for me)

 

[Pokemon_Dad]

Until TiVo gets around to putting the pre-roll ads on TE3
Have you heard that TiVo is pulling everyone out of the opt-out in the next software update? Link please.
(..and that arrow 'hangs there' for about a tenth of a sec for me)

People opted out, then found themselves opted back in when their units updated. Maybe TiVo has fixed that for the next update, maybe they haven't.

Pre-roll ads on TE3? We're ready to move on here. Automatic commercial skip works nicely in Channels DVR, even in shows that TiVo does not index, and the Gracenote EPG is more accurate.

 

[Beryl]

These ads are unbearable. I’m looking into alternatives as well.

 

[ufo4sale]

With people like "you" it's just a matter of time before TiVo comes crumbling down. How is TiVo staying afloat any way?

 

[V7Goose]

With people like "you" it's just a matter of time before TiVo comes crumbling down. How is TiVo staying afloat any way?

Well, I do not know who specifically you were trying to insult, but I will gladly accept your label.

Rovi does not "deserve" to stay afloat, in my opinion. As an individual, my one buying decision will not make much difference, but the marketplace will eventually make that decision (either way). Rovi is incompetent, and they have repeatedly shown a disgusting disregard for any customer-centric approach to business. There certainly is no shortage of examples of companies that have taken that approach and gone out of business because intelligent people decided they did not deserve to get money thrown at them just because they once had a good product.

Do I want TiVo to go away? No, and I will miss them. But if the decision was mine alone, I would absolutely prefer that they went out of business tomorrow than be allowed to continue on their current path. The only thing they deserve at this time is to have the market reject them. If they learn in time and can change, then my opinion will change too.

As long as the sheep continue to throw money at them and stay quiet, you can be TOTALLY assured that they will continue to feel justified that every decision they have made is wonderful, so NOTHING will change for the better. When one stupid company goes out of business, there is always somebody else with a better idea and more intelligence to step in and fill the vacuum.

 

[dswallow]

With people like "you" it's just a matter of time before TiVo comes crumbling down. How is TiVo staying afloat any way?

Pretty sure nothing is stopping you from sending money to TiVo every month to help them "stay afloat."

 

[V7Goose]

Pretty sure nothing is stopping you from sending money to TiVo every month to help them "stay afloat."

I'll bet he could even send them more money every WEEK if it is that important to him!

 

[ufo4sale]

Pretty sure nothing is stopping you from sending money to TiVo every month to help them "stay afloat."

I paid "all in" so that's not an option unless you amortize the cost which I think they do anyway. I'm a shareholder for this company so I have a vested interest in their success. But I do agree that the choices TiVo continue to make is not the TiVo that I grew up with. Time will reveal all.

 

[Tony_T]

These ads are unbearable. I'm looking into alternatives as well.

Agreed.
Have you tried calling/chatting with TiVo support and requesting an opt-out?

 

[schatham]

Maybe these ads have nothing to do with Tivo making extra money. Maybe it's just a trial run to perfect them for a selling point to cable operators who may choose Tivo. Then the cable operators will input their ads.

 

[dswallow]

I paid "all in" so that's not an option unless you amortize the cost which I think they do anyway. I'm a shareholder for this company so I have a vested interest in their success. But I do agree that the choices TiVo continue to make is not the TiVo that I grew up with. Time will reveal all.

I was just being sarcastic... if you are so worried about TiVo you can send them money. No subscription required. TiVo has pretty much fully alienated me through their actions now, so highly unlikely they'll get anything more from me after 19 years, unless they repent from these terrible decisions.

 

[V7Goose]

Me too.

I will continue using the products and services for which I already paid (costing TiVo money every month, but not me), and I absolutely will not give them another cent. If I should want or need another box, I will ONLY consider a used Lifetime box on the secondary market so that I avoid rewarding this greedy and incompetent company any further.

They won't put any money or effort in getting their terrible Guide data correct, but they happily spent huge sums of both in implementing ways to shove more commercials down our throats. This clearly shows that they have zero intent of ever trying to EARN our business again. And this behavior does not engender any loyalty in me.

 

[Chuck_IV]

They won't put any money or effort in getting their terrible Guide data correct, but they happily spent huge sums of both in implementing ways to shove more commercials down our throats. This clearly shows that they have zero intent of ever trying to EARN our business again. And this behavior does not engender any loyalty in me.

This the my absolute #1 sore spot. Their guide data is flat out putrid, for lack of a better word. From generic episode descriptions to "to be announced" to completely WRONG guide data, it PO to no end. And it continues to get WORSE. IMO, it is just pure laziness on the company's part for allowing this to happen. But if you look at their history, even before buying TiVo, they don't seem to care because somehow they have managed to still make money in spite of their laziness.

I've gotten rid of the guide and pre-roll ads via PiHole but I can't do anything to improve the guide data. So I have been seriously considering the Spectrum World box. I know it is inferior to TiVo but they have better guide data and better integration with their original programming and on-demand.

I am at the point now that I really don't want to be giving TiVo any more money to promote their laziness/arrogance(I am a monthly sub).

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[Pokemon_Dad]

This the my absolute #1 sore spot. Their guide data is flat out putrid, for lack of a better word. From generic episode descriptions to "to be announced" to completely WRONG guide data, it PO to no end. And it continues to get WORSE. IMO, it is just pure laziness on the company's part for allowing this to happen. But if you look at their history, even before buying TiVo, they don't seem to care because somehow they have managed to still make money in spite of their laziness.

I've gotten rid of the guide and pre-roll ads via PiHole but I can't do anything to improve the guide data. So I have been seriously considering the Spectrum World box. I know it is inferior to TiVo but they have better guide data and better integration with their original programming and on-demand.

I am at the point now that I really don't want to be giving TiVo any more money to promote their laziness/arrogance(I am a monthly sub).

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Rovi has always been about patents, not quality. To get back to the Gracenote guide, since you've got patience for PiHole, I suggest you give Channels DVR a look.

The 6-tuner HD HomeRun Prime (for CableCard) has been delayed, but there are still new 3-tuner Primes on eBay (check DRM compatibility with your cable provider). Or go entirely OTT using your Spectrum credentials and TVE. I'm testing a mix of OTA and TVE right now. (Wow, that's a lot of initials. But TiVo motivated me to get used to them fast.)

Discussions of these topics are woven throughout the TiVo Alternatives thread, among others.

 

[Amnesia]

I took a look at the (future) HD HomeRun Prime, but I didn't see anything about 4K in there....or did I just miss it?

 

[ej42137]

With people like "you" it's just a matter of time before TiVo comes crumbling down. How is TiVo staying afloat any way?

If TiVo continues on this course it does not deserve to live.

 

[Jed1]

This the my absolute #1 sore spot. Their guide data is flat out putrid, for lack of a better word. From generic episode descriptions to "to be announced" to completely WRONG guide data, it PO to no end. And it continues to get WORSE. IMO, it is just pure laziness on the company's part for allowing this to happen. But if you look at their history, even before buying TiVo, they don't seem to care because somehow they have managed to still make money in spite of their laziness.

I've gotten rid of the guide and pre-roll ads via PiHole but I can't do anything to improve the guide data. So I have been seriously considering the Spectrum World box. I know it is inferior to TiVo but they have better guide data and better integration with their original programming and on-demand.

I am at the point now that I really don't want to be giving TiVo any more money to promote their laziness/arrogance(I am a monthly sub).

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Spectrum gets its guide data from TiVo/Rovi/Gemstar TVGuide.
Our Customers | TiVo

 

[Chuck_IV]

Spectrum gets its guide data from TiVo/Rovi/Gemstar TVGuide.
Our Customers | TiVo

I'm not sure I believe this because when I see missing/wrong data in the TiVo guide(which is frequent these days.. even after doing a call home) I pull up the Spectrum app on my Roku and I can see that guide data and it is correct.

Why is it TiVo's completely wrong/missing when Spectrums isn't?

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[Adam C.]

Is the pre-roll ad rollout still ongoing? I still have not seen them on my Roamio OTA.