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Nice discovery! But unfortunate!

I did mention the other day pre-rolls have been tested but not clear how and when they'd be utilized. I imagine this would be more a MSO solution or a subsidized retail offering, rather than something we'll see on existing hardware/service.

May I publish the video? Any pics of ads in guide? Thanks!
I just tweeted Zatz's article to TiVo support on Twitter. Will see if they respond.
Zatz article...

TiVo Sullies DVR Recordings with Video Ads
 

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I knew that auto skip was too good to be true and that there would be a catch.

This is so wrong Tivo! Like others have said, I don't mind if you offer it in a new cheaper plan but those of us already paying 14.99 a month shouldn't have to deal with this.

Please make the right choice here, we love our Tivos but if push comes to shove, there are MANY options out there.

EDIT - wow ok so i saw the post above mine, guess this is here to stay
 

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Just got a new Bolt and I thought I was going crazy. When I play a recording the screen goes black with the spinning blue circle for a couple of seconds, then an advertisement plays for about 15 secs, then the recording starts. If you go back and play from the beginning you'll see a different ad. The ones I remember seeing are for Toyota, Keurig and Amazon.

It seems you can skip the ad by pressing fast forward but it's not that seamless.

Anyone else?
Are you a beta tester by agreement?

Never mind, asked already.
 

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the irony in the same company delivering auto commercial skip while also getting into the ad business by introducing it's own 15 second pre-roll ads.

You could see this coming. They said they were going to monetize their UI.

Funny thing for me is I read this thread yesterday and sign up for a (2nd) free trial of YTTV and what do I see there? 15 second even 30 second (and unskippable) pre-roll ads from Google. (at least on some content.)
 

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the irony in the same company giving the customer both auto commercial skip and new 15 second streaming ads.
Yeah. The difference is that TiVo isn't getting paid a dime for those ads they're helping you to skip over in the actual broadcast. But they're getting all the ad revenue for those pre-roll ads that customers view.
 

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I'm wondering if the next step is to roll out a product with free OTA DVR service (perhaps their upcoming $50 TiVo Android TV Stick in conjunction with a Tablo-style network tuner+hard drive). They'll use their existing AutoSkip technology (supplemented by AI-based ad marking for non-primetime shows) in order to automatically skip over all the original ads embedded in the broadcast recording. But instead, they'll force you to watch, let's say, one or two 30-second targeted streaming ads during each ad break.

Lots of cord-cutters would accept that kind of trade-off for free DVR service. Not sure if such a scheme might violate copyright, fair-use, etc. though. Broadcasters would, of course, be up in arms.
 

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Perhaps this was an 'intended beta' for their Edge plans - now that it's leaked and further leaked that even TE3 users have been asked to do testing maybe there actually is reason for concern. Maybe an 'opt-out' w/fee or no commercial skip until you agree! I've a new Bolt that's not even out of the wrap so I may look into a return. These leaks could be enough of an argument I'd think to justify!
 

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Does anyone else make a CableCARD DVR? Does Silicone Dust still make one?
Windows Media Center still hobbles along for some; otherwise, I believe that SD's DVR software does support their CableCARD network tuner *aside* from protected content.* (No clue if it supports SDV and the associated Tuning Adapter technology, though I'd think they would need to.)

* DRM protected Cable TV channels in the USA are available to be viewed Live via Windows 10, Android and Apple iOS devices. Record, playback and other platforms coming soon. (link)​

edit: Quick check of SD's website highlights a new(?) product of which I was unaware... the SERVIO, their physical DVR offering. Zats review article here.
 
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