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Have not gotten those ads, and they would be totally unacceptable. I don't even appreciate the significantly shorter ones on free YouTube (and they impact my viewership). I wouldn't accept this on a subscription TiVo box, not do I think that I would accept it in a subscription-free TiVo box. It would be time to explore the Amazon Recast.
 

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Just got a new Bolt and I thought I was going crazy. When I play a recording the screen goes black with the spinning blue circle for a couple of seconds, then an advertisement plays for about 15 secs, then the recording starts. If you go back and play from the beginning you'll see a different ad. The ones I remember seeing are for Toyota, Keurig and Amazon.

It seems you can skip the ad by pressing fast forward but it's not that seamless.

Anyone else?
You've got a drop in ad similar to what to what Sling, Direct TV Now, and some other streaming services drop into programming. Sounds like your cable co. is experimenting. The blue circle than the crappy SD video means there is delay pulling from a remote server. Are your cable provider and internet provider the same company. The other possibility is Tivo is experimenting and maybe you weren't supposed to get the ad.
 

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The fact that the TiVo play bar doesn't show until after the ad seems to prove that it's being inserted by the TiVo and not part of the recording.

What the actual f*ck! Seriously if they force this on us I'm going to be p*ssed. I hate ads! I've paid TiVo thousands upon thousands of dollars over the years to avoid them in my recorded TV. If they start trying to force their own ads onto me I'm done.
 

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What the actual f*ck! Seriously if they force this on us I'm going to be p*ssed. I hate ads! I've paid TiVo thousands upon thousands of dollars over the years to avoid them in my recorded TV. If they start trying to force their own ads onto me I'm done.
Unfortunately Roku has shown how profitable ads can be. Hopefully TiVO is testing this for the OEM market and not retail. Not ideal but if this keeps TiVO in business I can deal with one upfront commercial. The people who buy retail TiVo's are not very profitable customers. They do not buy directly from TiVO forcing TiVO to split profits with retailers. They buy onetime All-In service and then hold onto hardware forever. And now a lot of the TCF customers have become addicted to only paying rock bottom $599 DVR+All-In SALE prices. I'm surprised TiVO waited so long.
 

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Here's a video of what happens with Young Sheldon on CBS

www.andyf.com/IMG_0950.MOV
Nice discovery! But unfortunate!

I did mention the other day pre-rolls have been tested but not clear how and when they'd be utilized. I imagine this would be more a MSO solution or a subsidized retail offering, rather than something we'll see on existing hardware/service.

May I publish the video? Any pics of ads in guide? Thanks!
 

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Nice discovery! But unfortunate!

I did mention the other day pre-rolls have been tested but not clear how and when they'd be utilized. I imagine this would be more a MSO solution or a subsidized retail offering, rather than something we'll see on existing hardware/service.

May I publish the video? Any pics of ads in guide? Thanks!
Feel free to download the video and host it yourself. No ads in the guide.
 

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Unfortunately Roku has shown how profitable ads can be. Hopefully TiVO is testing this for the OEM market and not retail. Not ideal but if this keeps TiVO in business I can deal with one upfront commercial. The people who buy retail TiVo's are not very profitable customers. They do not buy directly from TiVO forcing TiVO to split profits with retailers. They buy onetime All-In service and then hold onto hardware forever. And now a lot of the TCF customers have become addicted to only paying rock bottom $599 DVR+All-In SALE prices. I'm surprised TiVO waited so long.
$600 is "rock bottom"? Lol. Woah!
 

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Feel free to download the video and host it yourself. No ads in the guide.
It's interesting as I have seen the exact same thing on my Bolt but I didn't think it was a drop-in Ad. I thought there was a bug where it was playing the beginning of another random show and almost all shows play a couple seconds of the commercial before the start of the show I ask for. I guess I never let the ad play more than a second or so before I hit FF and it went away. But I've seen it happen several times in the past week or so. :(
 

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It's interesting as I have seen the exact same thing on my Bolt but I didn't think it was a drop-in Ad. I thought there was a bug where it was playing the beginning of another random show and almost all shows play a couple seconds of the commercial before the start of the show I ask for. I guess I never let the ad play more than a second or so before I hit FF and it went away. But I've seen it happen several times in the past week or so. :(
I thought the same thing at first. The clincher is when you go to play the show again from the beginning you get a totally different ad.
 

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I use My Premiere to record shows I can't get on Hulu, Netflix, Prime, or using Playon Desktop recordings. Playon has an adequate commercial skipper for recordings, providing the media PC has a strong processor (mine is an i5-4590T, passmark of about 5400). I was thinking about upgrading to the new Tivo when it comes out, but now will wait for reviews.

Roku is my main access point to streaming. My pfSense router has an add on package called pfBlockerNG. It blocks as many ads as I can find lists for. This is blocking over the entire household. At this time, it seems to block Roku ads well. I occasionally have to whitelist sites so the home computers get access to the right sites and features.
 

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I use My Premiere to record shows I can't get on Hulu, Netflix, Prime, or using Playon Desktop recordings. Playon has an adequate commercial skipper for recordings, providing the media PC has a strong processor (mine is an i5-4590T, passmark of about 5400). I was thinking about upgrading to the new Tivo when it comes out, but now will wait for reviews.

Roku is my main access point to streaming. My pfSense router has an add on package called pfBlockerNG. It blocks as many ads as I can find lists for. This is blocking over the entire household. At this time, it seems to block Roku ads well. I occasionally have to whitelist sites so the home computers get access to the right sites and features.
I use Pi-hole in a similar way and have not seen ads like these in TiVo or Roku.
 

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These ads are TRULY HORRIBLE in my opinion. Absolutely unacceptable, and they have made me seriously start looking at TiVo alternatives that I have always ignored. I have seen a lot of these pre-roll ads, and I am too disgusted for family-friendly words. I have never been interested in replacing my TiVos, but that has totally changed now, and I am certain I will never spend another cent with this company unless they turn this around! They have violated their implied contract with me, and they cannot be trusted.

Here is another BIG problem you will start to see with these ads: You can sometimes skip them before they start by hitting the jump forward button during that nasty BSC (but they seem to be trying to disable that). If you regularly try that, you will frequently see your TiVo lock up and then reboot after about a 30 second wait! The first clue that you have been screwed is a short error message that says "Can't play now. E117"; once you see that, it WILL eventually reboot.

BTW, the pre-roll commercials are absolutely NOT recorded with the show - if you stream a show from another box running TE3 (or copy it to a Series 3), the nasty ads are NOT seen. I have now totally quit watching ANYTHING directly on my one TE4 box for this very reason.
 
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