I don't know that there's been what you could say ALL TiVo owners running TE4 have the same experience! Until there's a 'majority of TE4 users that can confirm your implied 'FACT' actually is more speculation!!!If you've read through the thread so far, I think that's what's actually happening is pretty well established. What more is there to say?
Here are the facts: TiVo owners running TE4 (Hydra) are seeing streaming pre-roll video ads that TiVo is inserting before they begin playback of their regular TV recordings. It's been confirmed by TiVo via Twitter with remarks that seem to indicate that this is now normal behavior and not some sort of limited experiment that isn't ultimately intended for their existing retail customers. The ads can be skipped/FF past, although (at least right now), doing so is a bit sluggish.
I did READ and nowhere do you mention 'SOME' - the TWEET actually mentions 'SOME DVR' recordings and not all!!!Learn to read, sir. Nowhere in my statement does it say ALL TiVo owners running TE4 are seeing these ads. (Yet, anyway.) How could anyone know with any certainty whether a certain feature/bug is affecting ALL TiVo users anyhow? What we do know is that several folks on TE4 (but, I believe, none on TE3) have confirmed that they are seeing these pre-roll ads. And TiVo has confirmed that this is happening and that's it's apparently not some isolated freak thing.
ALL ? Got it. I get the sarcasmSo unless someone specifically says "SOME," you understand it to mean "ALL"? Got it. Excellent reading comprehension skills there, bud.
If you can verify the 'pre-roll ad' I was told this AM that a phone call should be sufficient to have it 'disabled/removed'. It might be interesting to maybe confirm your software version now and if after a phone call what it is then. Of course come back and mention what transpired in the phone call!!Dammit! I just got home from work, checked out one of my recordings and sure enough got an ad. Actually not even an ad, the spinning blue circle follow by a 'see something say something' psa.
I'm a new customer, signed up a few months ago. Never was a beta tester. Cable only Bolt Vox 1TB lifetime sub.
In my CHAT I was TOLD that there certainly is/was - I'm not going to post my CHAT (I DO HAVE) but for sure I was told to unbox, connect and activate. If the ads appeared 'CALL AND WE'LL REMOVE THAT FEATURE'. They told you many calls and after everyone else has 'grabbed' the info and 'editorialized' it I believe they'll need to address it to the multitudes!!I just got off the phone with technical support. He said there is no way to turn off that feature. If I dont want to see the ad I can press skip.
After I got a bit more heated than I would have liked, he did say they are working on a setting to turn it off. I don't know if he said that because I was being umm a bit stern in my tone.
He also said they are getting a lot of calls about it.
@krkaufman I posted my version above. I don't know how to tell TE3 from 4 but I assume it was 4 because it was new equipment and I didnt downgrade.
I'd think it interesting that since you've got it use and maybe mention your thoughts. I've never used TE4/21.* so I can't tell what to expect. Is it in fact a simple 'SKIP' to get to the 'DVR EVENT'! maybe express your displeasure in a CHAT where you'll be asked for the DVR ID etc, you'll be able to save the CHAT and that I'd say documents your displeasure. In a CHAT ENTRY I'd add the DVR ID, 21.* info etc.Maybe the guy I talked to didn't know about that? He put me on hold for a while to look into it and came back with the answer. But the answer was definitive (or so it seemed.) I asked about extending my return period so I could send it all back and he said he cant deal with that I'd need to call customer service, he is just technical support.
I'm not sure what to do now.
YOU'VE READ!!!!!! - AGAIN - YOU're stressing the 'brain' STOP ITI've read that Verizon FiOS recently increased the price for their DVR service and/or equipment rental.
And while you're trying to weigh your options, be aware that Verizon now sells YouTube TV, letting you pay through your Verizon bill. Earlier this summer, they were giving new FiOS internet subscribers one free month of YouTube TV to start rather than the standard 1-week free trial. Also, Verizon has submitted to the FCC a new streaming device called "Stream TV". The speculation is that it will run a version of Google Android TV with a UI and remote control that are customized specifically for YouTube TV. Then Verizon will have their own custom hardware to give to their YouTube TV subscribers, making it easier for traditional cable TV subscribers to switch over to streaming cable TV.
Sure Looks Like Verizon has a Streaming TV Box on the Way
YouTube TV (and all the streaming cable TV services, really) have their own set of trade-offs versus using traditional cable TV with a TiVo. But with TiVo now streaming ads to their users, it might tip the scales in favor of another option...
I'll SCREAM 'HARASSMENT' ALSO'!!!!! I really try to 'ignore' you but then you're with the I read or I think. I believe I've pretty much stuck to 'fact & first hand' experience. I'm sorry you can't/don't see the intended 'HUMOR/SARCASM'Verizon Fios is Raising Its DVR & Set-Top Box Fees to $24 Per Box - Cord Cutters News
Also, if you keep up your behavior, I will report you to the forum moderators for harassment.
I'm quite sure and I thought an 'alternative' for me on my 1080P displays would be to use a 4Tuner Elite and a A9300 Mini if 'preplay-ads' got pushed to Roamio w/TE3. I'm content just to wait. I and others have been told different than what's mentioned in all of the 'editorial' pieces. Who knows - I'm sure it will get interesting. He!! TiVo might just figure the 'editorials' have done their 'nasties' and if the flack seems worth it - just leave it as is regardless whether it was the plan or NOT!!!!!Did it? I haven't used it for quite some time. News to me.
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They've already shipped an 'EDGE' to replace a failed Bolt 're-certified' purchase experience so who knows what's up. I'm good with my TE3 hardware, CableCARD experience etc. The Bolt VOX TE4 if the 'ad feature' can't be 'opted out' for ever I doubt a keeper. No Xfinity VOD not an issue. I believe that once experienced Bolt TE4 users can comment on the daily use and 'feature' aggravation going forward on a daily experience it's not an issue! Post CableCARD ain't an issue!I think we'll get much more of TiVo's overall game plan (and see just how baked it is) in October when TiVo+ is officially announced (along with the Edge likely at the same time). I'm wondering if TiVo is pushing this out now (even though their Android TV streaming stick apparently won't be ready until early 2020) in order to get out in front of some bad news that Comcast might deliver this fall with regard to TiVo. Perhaps TiVo wants to show the media and Wall Street that they do have a post-CableCARD DVR future lined up and they're already executing on it.
A 'comment' directly by a TiVo representative or from one of the 'EDITORIALIZED' pushes from the 'usual sources'? I hadn't seen anything that appeared to be a TiVo release. I've had a conversation with TiVo as have others that the 'FEATURE' can be removed/deactivated. I certainly don't know ........Tivo did say it would go to all eligible devices and that eligible devices were those running TE4.