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I'm referring to S2 owners being able to stream media from their computer to their tivo while us "premium" customers are left out in the cold.


Load of horse pooey it is then.


My old xbox can stream anything from any computer WITHOUT special software, they should just install xbox media center on the damn S3 if they're not capable of figuring out SMB.
 

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I'm referring to S2 owners being able to stream media from their computer to their tivo while us "premium" customers are left out in the cold.

Load of horse pooey it is then.

My old xbox can stream anything from any computer WITHOUT special software, they should just install xbox media center on the damn S3 if they're not capable of figuring out SMB.
They are capable of figuring it out. They are just in an abusive relationship with CableLabs.
 

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"they should just install xbox media center on the damn S3 if they're not capable of figuring out SMB."

CableLabs told Tivo that if they want to be able to use CableCards, which are necessary for Tivo to do HD, then they can't include TivoToGo. The newer S3 Tivo, however, apparently has a hardware chip for converting HD video to SD, so maybe we'll see some functionality like TivoToGo but with reduced resolution in the future. I'm hoping for MRV at SD so I can share between my S2's and S3 at least somewhat.
 

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It seems odd that TTG and TTCB are so intertwined that TiVo can't figure out how to implement TTCB on the S3/HD. Certainly, I can understand why TTG isn't enabled, but TTCB seems harmless (since what is the difference of watching video that I already have on my PC vs my TV?). To that extent, I have a Sony PS3 that can play most of my video files via a MediaTomb server. Sure, I prefer the TiVo interface to the PS3's XMB interface, but atleast I now have a means of viewing my videos on a TV.
 

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pitchford said:
My old xbox can stream anything from any computer WITHOUT special software, they should just install xbox media center on the damn S3 if they're not capable of figuring out SMB.
#1 - If you're using XBMC, that's hardly "WITHOUT SPECIAL SOFTWARE" since you had to install a mod-chip (semi-illegal), download software (which if you didn't compile it on your own, is semi-illegal), and then install it on the XBox.

#2 - XBMC is playing all those formats without the proper licensing. Since it's all semi-illegal, what's one more license violation. But it's not something a commercial company can just do.

#3 - If you mean the XBox Media Extender, then that plays almost no formats, and it's terrible.

Nice try.
 

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Heck - I'd be happy if they enabled multi-room transfers of SD on the series 3.

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#3 - If you mean the XBox Media Extender, then that plays almost no formats, and it's terrible.
What? Out of the box it plays wmv/mpeg/dvrms. With transcode 360 it plays almost anything. I guess the assessment of it's quaility at the end of the day is a personal thing, but for my money I find the MCX does an amazing job with media playback. I certainly wouldn't call it terrible. Shoot, if it weren't for the fact that it doesn't do cablecard (cheaply anyway) I would still be using it as a DVR also.
 

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He's referring to XBOX Media Center for the xbox1, not the media capabilities of the 360. XBMC plays every non-HD format known to man. Even stuff like quicktime, FLV, MKV. In fact, it'll play videos from the inside of 50 RAR files. It's awesome.

It's trivial to softmod an xbox1 with no modchip. That doesn't make it any less illegal in the US as you're "circumventing a protection mechanism". But I don't think anyone cares about the xbox1 these days.
 

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What? Out of the box it plays wmv/mpeg/dvrms. With transcode 360 it plays almost anything. I guess the assessment of it's quaility at the end of the day is a personal thing, but for my money I find the MCX does an amazing job with media playback. I certainly wouldn't call it terrible. Shoot, if it weren't for the fact that it doesn't do cablecard (cheaply anyway) I would still be using it as a DVR also.
Folks, just a little searching and research on the TiVo HD announcements from just a couple of weeks ago stated that they're going to add MRV and TiVo2Go for the original S3 and TiVoHD before the end of the year. They've also stated that they'll probably only initially support SD and HD converted to SD based transfers (due to the cable labs restrictions).

Since the series 3 based boxes rely on cable cards, they are restricted by rules set by Cable Labs. If TiVo ignored cable labs, then they could not get their boxes certified and they would also lose certification. If the boxes aren't certified, the cable companies are not required to support cable cards with TiVos. It stinks, but it's this simple.
 

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Folks, just a little searching and research on the TiVo HD announcements from just a couple of weeks ago stated that they're going to add MRV and TiVo2Go for the original S3 and TiVoHD before the end of the year. They've also stated that they'll probably only initially support SD and HD converted to SD based transfers (due to the cable labs restrictions).

Since the series 3 based boxes rely on cable cards, they are restricted by rules set by Cable Labs. If TiVo ignored cable labs, then they could not get their boxes certified and they would also lose certification. If the boxes aren't certified, the cable companies are not required to support cable cards with TiVos. It stinks, but it's this simple.
Wrong! Here's the real scoop from Tivo's Jim Denney himself:
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/07/24/qanda-with-tivos-jim-denney-about-tivo-hd/
TiVo is also working to ensure TiVoToGo will not be resolution-restricted, only copy-flag restricted. (Read: TiVoToGo will work for SD and HD content.)
 

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I'm really keen for MRV. Currently I cannot watch my TiVo (s2) content on my S3 TiVo where my HDTV is. For now my work around is I have the S2 record and then auto-transfer to my PC. I then watch the S2 originated files on my HDTV downstairs using my PS3 being served up with windows media player.

The long and short of is I sort of have MRV in one direction using the TiVo desktop and WMP 11 as a media server and my PS3 as a client.

No work around for getting shows to go the other way yet though!
 

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Ok I'm going to be SICK XBOX on S3. What is wrong with you. XBOX is a fake poor sad wana be game playing thing.... Now PS3 is a winner. All the goods and none of the bad. TRUE 1080P MEDIA HUB WITH ACCES TO MY NETWORK. Please take that sad xbox with it's DVD player and watch movies with it.
 

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Ok I'm going to be SICK XBOX on S3. What is wrong with you. XBOX is a fake poor sad wana be game playing thing.... Now PS3 is a winner. All the goods and none of the bad. TRUE 1080P MEDIA HUB WITH ACCES TO MY NETWORK. Please take that sad xbox with it's DVD player and watch movies with it.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this [forum] is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Sorry...I couldn't resist. I like dropping BM lines whenever I hear fanboy rants like that. Serious face back on... :D
 
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