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TiVo confirms the SD portions of HDUI will be converted

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curiousgeorge
At last we FINALLY have official confirmation that TiVo will convert the SD parts of the HDUI so it's all HD format. TiVo twittered an answer today that they will do it.

Now we just need to know when....
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curiousgeorge said:
At last we FINALLY have official confirmation that TiVo will convert the SD parts of the HDUI so it's all HD format. TiVo twittered an answer today that they will do it.

Now we just need to know when....
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The last TiVo tweet I see is from June 21.
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orangeboy said:
The last TiVo tweet I see is from June 21.
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https://twitter.com/#!/tivodesign
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Maybe I'm being cynical, but just to throw it out there... Margret is probably responding with the best of intentions, but we'll have to see what happens. Tivo folks gave similar "unofficial" indications that the Series 3 would work with multi-stream Cablecards, for example - and it turned out not to be possible / happen / etc. for whatever reason. I've gotten the impression folks at Tivo really did wish that had turned out differently - it's nothing malicious, just the way things shake out sometimes doesn't go according to plan.

Just saying... same way that just because I "plan to win the lottery" doesn't mean it'll happen. Completely aside from the fact that I'd never buy a ticket. ;)
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TheWGP said:
Maybe I'm being cynical, but just to throw it out there... Margret is probably responding with the best of intentions, but we'll have to see what happens. Tivo folks gave similar "unofficial" indications that the Series 3 would work with multi-stream Cablecards, for example - and it turned out not to be possible / happen / etc. for whatever reason. I've gotten the impression folks at Tivo really did wish that had turned out differently - it's nothing malicious, just the way things shake out sometimes doesn't go according to plan.

Just saying... same way that just because I "plan to win the lottery" doesn't mean it'll happen. Completely aside from the fact that I'd never buy a ticket. ;)
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I am pretty cynical about TiVo and the Premiere at this point (and I hate that I have become such), but I think your example and this one are quite different. The one you mentioned had to do with hardware and specs that were out of TiVos control. Finishing the SD->HDUI transition is plain programming - essentially skinning the UI. No outside forces really affect it, and it's not a hardware issue.

I was just happy there was FINALLY in indication that finishing it is in the works. Prior to this all we had was the survey questions from months ago asking if it was a good idea.
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curiousgeorge said:
Prior to this all we had was the survey questions from months ago asking if it was a good idea.
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but really...they had to ask?
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If they move from SD to HD menus without addressing the speed issues, that would make it worse, not better.
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MikeTerryP said:
If they move from SD to HD menus without addressing the speed issues, that would make it worse, not better.
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Yea, to me this headline reads: TiVo confirms they are going to fix cosmetic BS while ignoring bugs and performance :-(.
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The conversion from SD to HD menus cannot happen soon enough. That is the one thing I hate about my Premieres. I hate seeing the SD menus.
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Am_I_Evil said:
https://twitter.com/#!/tivodesign
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Thanks - I ended up finding TiVo Margret's tweet before seeing your post. I suppose if I were told to tune to channel 3 for a special announcement, I'd expect to see that announcement on channel 3, not channel 4.

On the other hand, since TiVo Margret is an employee of TiVo, her statements do represent TiVo, so it's just a matter of semantics.
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aaronwt said:
The conversion from SD to HD menus cannot happen soon enough. That is the one thing I hate about my Premieres. I hate seeing the SD menus.
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Margret? Margret, is that you? Are you hiding in there?
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MikeTerryP said:
If they move from SD to HD menus without addressing the speed issues, that would make it worse, not better.
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I'm going to be an optimist and assume that they mean simply that all HDUI menus will use HD resolution, thus avoiding annoying resolution shifts when changing menus, and not that they're going to add unwanted, hardware-hogging, downloaded eye candy (ads) to all HDUI menus.
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The tweet indicates that they plan to finish updating SD to HD. That's a little different than saying they will.
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I'm going to be an optimist and assume that they mean simply that all HDUI menus will use HD resolution, thus avoiding annoying resolution shifts when changing menus, and not that they're going to add unwanted, hardware-hogging, downloaded eye candy (ads) to all HDUI menus.
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I expect the 'advertisement bar' will make an appearance on the new screens.

Really, finishing what they've started is so little work. Maybe they hired an intern, or maybe the administration listened to my pleas that the HDUI is a "shovel-ready project" and donated some stimulus money. Maybe they'll re-skin it all in green, and call it a green project.

I'm a cynic. I don't expect this to get finished anytime soon. Maybe around the time the Premiere's replacement arrives. Finishing the product isn't a priority, or they'd have done it last year.
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smbaker said:
Finishing the product isn't a priority, or they'd have done it last year.
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Tivo will finish it for the next Tivo box and then use it as a selling point. Then they will come up with some lame excuse as to why they can't finish it on the Premiere. Sadly, this will probably be my last Tivo ever.
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I say keep as is, and work on something more useful.
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Am_I_Evil said:
but really...they had to ask?
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They asked people to rate the feature ideas and also put them in rank from highest to lowest.

While I would like them to finish the HDUI, I would much rather see new features.

Originally I said TiVo should, as they roll out updates, upgrade one screen at a time. At this point though I think if TiVo doesn't update everything at once this forum and other sites will be flooded with negative posts and feedback.

Of course as the TiVo Ninja pointed out,
TiVoJerry said:
May I suggest utilizing the link to Request Feature Enhancement? :D
It helps get the word to those who listen. A volume of reports might catch their attention!
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http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8578831#post8578831
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I say keep as is, and work on something more useful.
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I would say just say get rid of it, but then all the people who apparently want to spend their time watching the UI instead of TV would have a fit. So I will say instead, replace it with something that works as well as the text based UI and add enough useless graphics to keep everyone happy.
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wemetzger said:
I say keep as is, and work on something more useful.
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Working on something more "useful" may be more practical, but in it's current form the half finished UI is an embarrassment to TiVo and the product. Like it or not people's first impression of a product comes from their interaction with the UI, and not the practical features. By finishing the UI they could attract more first time users via live demos and TV commercials.

Although part of "fixing" the UI needs to also be improving the speed. Having a bunch of flashy graphics in a UI that is a total dog is no better then just sticking with the old SD UI.

Dan
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Just as long as they leave the option of using the SD UI alone, I don't really don't give a damn. Never liked the HDUI, slow and unfinished aside it's annoyingly distracting, and now that I don't have to go into it to get disk utilization data I care even less.
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