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I also saw in The Master Samsung 360 topic in the AVS Forum that the SIR-TS-360 has an RF port. In that case, it would be worthwhile for a SIR-TS-360 owner to try the TiVo IR to DirecTV receiver RF hookup detailed in the Hughes Director GAEB0 entry of the Cable/Satellite Box Compatibility & Codes List to see if that will work for the SIR-TS-360, too.
 

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If the SIR-TS-360 uses new codes, then someone with a Pronto (learning universal remote) or a Palm (PDA) needs to capture the codes in Pronto format. From there, the codes can be sent to moderator Gary Sargent, with a request that they be translated into TiVo format and sent to TiVo. TiVo can then send a targeted mini-update that adds the new IR code to select TiVos for testing.

If the SIR-TS-360 does not use new codes but is instead suffering from something like what DISH Model 6000 users went through last year (bug introduced in DISH firmware), then that's hard for TiVo to deal with. In the Model 6000 case, they waited for DISH to fix their own problem, which took quite a while.
 

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Originally posted by GeorgeD
Sorry, didn't mean to rant, but just a little hostile right now.....
I think you have a right to be. I think they should be concerned that they are pushing a new receiver that works with neither TiVo nor ReplayTV, the two biggest DVRs around. It was nice to see Sony and Zenith ensure their SAT-HD300 and HD-SAT530 are TiVo-compatible after the complaints when the SAT-HD200 and HD-SAT520 were not (without extreme hoops). Too bad DirecTV and Samsung aren't willing to be as understanding.
 

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Slaving, no, but some of the C-Band TiVo owners simply set their receivers to change channels at the desired times and set their TiVos to make manual recordings. With DirecTV you should be able to do the same thing when you want to record from a sub-channel (that is, just set the DirecTV receiver to think it is recording to a VCR from a sub-channel and set the TiVo to record).
 

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Originally posted by SJinBoise
TiVo is a computer, with an IR receiver and an IR sender as peripherals. Why not let have an opton to make the TiVo LEARN the codes from any remote? I have a 1996 Sony receiver that could do that. The TiVo could basically act as a universal remote.

Come to think of it, this would be an excellent "hack" if TiVo Inc. doesn't want to do it...
In fact, if you capture the IR codes using a Pronto or Palm PDA (e.g., using the OmniRemote software), those codes can then be converted into TiVo format and submitted to TiVo for addition so that everyone can take advantage of the new codes (or hacked in yourself on your own TiVo).

Gary's TiVo FAQ site has info on the procedure for capturing, converting, and then getting new IR codes officially added.

(Information on how to hack in IR codes on your own TiVo can be found elsewhere.)
 

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Originally posted by Dean Roddey
Did anyone ever get any details on the deviations of this box from the standard DTV serial protocol? I'd like to extend my CQC DTV STB driver to support this one, but so far all I've found is that it's non-standard but no details on in what ways.
There's a link to info on the protocol in the compatibility list. Remember that all the things underlined there (about three hundred underlined items) are links to more detailed info or credits to people who have contributed to the list.
 

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Originally posted by patmcfar8
Thanks for the response... so it looks like we're screwed in the meantime eh?
I would have expected that by now some SIR-TS-360 owner would have taken the time to capture that the SIR-TS-360's IR codes (as mentioned in the links above, this can be done by anyone with a Palm PDA using the freely downloadable trial version of the OmniRemote Palm software, and it can also be done by anyone with a Pronto remote control) so that they can be converted into TiVo format and inserted into TiVo's database of IR codes…. I guess all the SIR-TS-360 owners have been waiting for someone else to do this and get the ball rolling.

Of course, getting the right IR code into TiVo is just the first step (but the most important one). In some rare cases, TiVo still cannot control a cable/satellite box reliably even with the right IR code.
 

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Originally posted by patmcfar8
Silly Samsung. So do you think Samsung or Tivo is more likely to "step up" and try to come up with a resolution?
I get the impression Samsung's response is to get a replacement receiver to market since the SIR-TS-360 has been reported to have other, non-TiVo problems, too.
 

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Originally posted by tyrob
I would try the RF cable thing posted in the Hughes GAEB0 thread but after reading that it doesn't seem to work for Series 2 and I have the SVR3000.
As far as I know, the GAEB0 RF cable works fine with Series2.
Anybody know if DirecTV sells any other HD recievers that work with SA Tivos via data port?
The compatibility list includes several entries for DirecTV HD receivers that work with TiVo.
 

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Originally posted by tyrob
ccwf - what do you base that on? I do not see one post in that thread that it works with a series 2.
The only known difference between in cable/satellite box compatibility between Series2 and non-Series2 is with the General Instrument DPV/DPB7xxx cable boxes. So, one of the following should be true:
  • it should work with Series2, too;
  • or else the initial success report was bogus, and it doesn't really work with non-Series2, either.
I read several posts back about capturing the IR codes. Wasn't this already done (post #25 in this thread).
You're right. My mistake.
 

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Originally posted by tyrob
And 10068 does not have 'enter' correctly mapped. Anyway that this can be fixed?
If someone can do fresh captures of the Enter IR sequence, we can convert that to TiVo format and send them to TiVo. See Gary Sargent's page on capturing IR codes for TiVo. The page is focused on UK TiVo owners, but Gary and TiVo have also worked with captured codes for U.S. owners.
 

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Originally posted by ralberts
I have captured the codes for the SIR-TS360 using OmniRemote. I have the OmniRemote.PDB file. Where can I send it or what tools do I need to convert it?
Gary has a conversion page at the link in the preceding post.

However, I spoke with TiVo this morning about the SIR-TS-360 and was told to emphasize two points they had previously sent me for the compatibility list:
  • It's known to be very important that you choose Enter Key: Yes for the SIR-TS-360.
  • The receiver's "IR only" vs "IR & RF" setting might also matter.
Please double-check those settings.
 

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Originally posted by tyrob
ccwf - since I verified the recommended settings from Tivo and the enter button is still incorrect can we proceed with a fix? Either the enter from 10069 or ralberts new capture.
I can request that TiVo check the 10068 enter code. But before I do that, are you sure the 10069 enter code does work for you?
 

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I've corresponded with TiVo on this issue. Here's what's going on.
  • The 10068 code is a straight capture and is indeed more reliable. However, it contains a lot of repeats and is so long that not all of the IR codes could be included. Thus, the Enter key was left out as being not absolutely essential.
  • The 10069 code is a shortened version of the 10068 code with enough repeats taken out that the Enter key could be added. Without as many repeats within the IR sequences for the digits, this code is less reliable.
So, I would suggest trying to see if you can get 10069 to work by carefully lining up the IR emitter with the receiver's IR sensor and by building an IR tent to cut out any interference. Sticking the IR emitter directly over the IR receiver and a stick-on style IR emitter might be worth trying. (Worthington Distributors sells stick-on style IR emitters many TiVo owners like.)

Please let me know whether or not any of those steps help with 10069 reliability. If the 10069 code cannot be made reliable enough, then I am afraid you are stuck with using the slow 10068 code.

Again, for Samsung SIR-TS-360 owners stumbling across this post, you must choose Yes for the Enter Key setting, and the IR only vs. IR & RF receiver setting might also be important.
 

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videog said:
Tivo and Samsung SIR-TS360
I am very late to this party, but wonder if anyone ever got the crestron rs-232 port codes. I just bought one of these things on ebay, and landed here trying to figure out how to control it
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Does anyone have any more?
The latest info I have is in the compatibility list. For more info on the Crestron possibility, try the AVS Forum topic linked there.
 
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