True, but I think it is commonly understood on this forum that people use "S3" to refer to the original version and "Tivo HD" to refer to the newer, less expensive box. Semantics aside, this seems like a logical way to distinguish between the two.Rucker said:I think vstone's point is that the original S3 is called Tivo HD also. The S3 I got in Nov says Tivo HD on the box. When someone on this forum refers to a model as the Tivo HD, or S3, you don't know which box they're actually referring to. Both terms could refer to either.