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Hello all,

Dug my old THD out of storage for use in a guest room. It hadn't been used in several years, so I took the opportunity to upgrade the drive (and apply the 11.0n.K1 update).

It seems to work fine, except for one problem - it doesn't seem to know it's connected to the network. I've tried the USB G-wireless adapter and a Ethernet wireless bridge (my trusty TPlink N300 nano), and it can complete TiVo service connections (and the diagnostics pass for DNS and ports). However, attempting to use network features (like Music/Apps/Showcases) gives me "Get more Tivo features with broadband", and Swivel Search tells me the network's not availible.

I can see my Living Room tivo bolt in the bottom of the Now Playing List for about 5 minutes after a reboot before it disappears. However, if I start a transfer, it will complete OK (if slowly) even after the Living Room option is gone from the NPL.

The network topology is roughly below. All involved systems have statically assigned addresses, all are in the same subnet.

Cable Modem =Ethernet=> LR Bolt =MoCa=> My Bedroom Actiontec Wifi Extender =Wi-Fi=> TivoHD

I'm stumped. Anyone here got any ideas?
 

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As with any S3 TiVo: start by replacing the power supply capacitors.

Also, I had little joy using any wireless solution with my TCD648250.
I replaced the power supply with a unit from Weaknees back in 2015. Should I do it again? Are they known to fail twice?
 

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I replaced the power supply with a unit from Weaknees back in 2015.
Should I do it again?
Are they known to fail twice?
If the power supply from weaknees was refurbished (caps replaced) by them or a vendor, then no.
The power supply should be fine.

I have not read, in this forum, of power supply failures after (properly) repaired...

Have you tried hard wiring the TiVo to your router?
Also, I have read in this forum, that many "network" features are no longer supported by TiVo, thus do not work.
 

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Network issue, I do not think power supply issue.
Yeah, I've got another MoCa adapter coming today or tomorrow to see if I can eliminate the wireless bridge segment of it - figure every step the transmissions take is one extra chance for the TiVo autodiscover special sauce to leak out.

If the power supply from weaknees was refurbished (caps replaced) by them or a vendor, then no.
The power supply should be fine.

I have not read, in this forum, of power supply failures after (properly) repaired...

Have you tried hard wiring the TiVo to your router?
Also, I have read in this forum, that many "network" features are no longer supported by TiVo, thus do not work.
I'm going to try that tonight. Really, the only network feature I care about is MRV, but search would be nice.
 

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Figured I’d post an update. As I expected, the issue was the wireless bridge (or maybe the extender). I connected the MoCa adapter in the same room and hardwired the HD in and the network is stable for MRV (my living room unit no longer disappears).

As for swivel search and explore, that was my mistake - I’d forgotten that they broke that years ago for S3s.

Weird, because the same wireless bridge works fine at a Mini in another room.


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However, attempting to use network features (like Music/Apps/Showcases) gives me "Get more Tivo features with broadband", and Swivel Search tells me the network's not availible.
Swivel search and I believe all the network apps at this point have been retired (Netflix I think was one of the last). You should still be able to transfer shows between TiVo's though

Scott
 

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Swivel search and I believe all the network apps at this point have been retired (Netflix I think was one of the last). You should still be able to transfer shows between TiVo's though

Scott
Yeah, I went back and looked at old forum posts last night and remembered that they yanked swivelsearch and the other apps. MRV works just fine now. It's a temp install, so not a big deal.
 

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Figured I'd post an update. As I expected, the issue was the wireless bridge (or maybe the extender). I connected the MoCa adapter in the same room and hardwired the HD in and the network is stable for MRV (my living room unit no longer disappears).

As for swivel search and explore, that was my mistake - I'd forgotten that they broke that years ago for S3s.

Weird, because the same wireless bridge works fine at a Mini in another room.
Used (non tivo approved) USB wireless for about 10 years to call home.
I discovered how weak wireless access was with S3 TiVo, after I bought a second TiVo and tried to transfer programs. Even after "upgrading" to a WES610N wireless bridge, transferring was not reliable.

Swivel search and I believe all the network apps at this point have been retired (Netflix I think was one of the last).

You should still be able to transfer shows between TiVo's though

Scott
I can confirm that transferring between TiVos works for me, with a hardwired network connection.
 
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