The Killing "What You Have Left" OAD 5.1.11

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Bierboy

Discussion Starter · May 3, 2011

Another excellent episode with less of the depressing mom, but some very poignant moments leading up to and after Rosie's funeral. Good cliffhanger with Stan and Bennett in the car focusing on Bennett's face laced with uncertainty.

Not sure how I felt about the debate and how it transpired; you knew the mayor would work in the "suspect" somehow. I did think showing Richmond just standing there alone after it was over was well done.

I loved Linden betting her son $50 million that they WOULD be on the plane....

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cheesesteak

· #2 · May 3, 2011

I ffwd'd through every scene with the mother.

The son wanting to help carry the casket was very touching.

Who was the guy Holder was in the car with. Seemed like an AA or NA sponsor but I'd swear I'd seen him before.

It rained again. I bet the Seattle tourist bureau is really loving this show.

mwhip

· #3 · May 3, 2011

Yes very good episode capped by at the end by the incredible soundtrack of Tacoma native Neko Case singing "Hold On, Hold On"

caslu

· #4 · May 3, 2011

cheesesteak said:
Who was the guy Holder was in the car with. Seemed like an AA or NA sponsor but I'd swear I'd seen him before.

His name is Brian Markinson, he played a detective investigating a terrorist bombing on Caprica.

scooterboy

· #5 · May 3, 2011

What was the deal with the guy who snubbed the grieving mother's sister at the funeral?

Anyone know who he is?

robojerk

· #6 · May 3, 2011

scooterboy said:
What was the deal with the guy who snubbed the grieving mother's sister at the funeral?

Anyone know who he is?

No, but the sister is awfully selfish to throw herself a pitty party at her niese's funeral.

billypritchard

· #7 · May 3, 2011

scooterboy said:
What was the deal with the guy who snubbed the grieving mother's sister at the funeral?

Anyone know who he is?

He mentioned Jaspar, so I'm pretty sure it's the rich dude father of Rosie's former boyfriend. Obviously there is something going on there.

marksman

· #8 · May 3, 2011

Did anyone else think when the guy detective was on the street and looked down and saw the two teenagers standing there he was going to go up and give them some marijuana? LOL.

windracer

· #9 · May 3, 2011

marksman said:
Did anyone else think when the guy detective was on the street and looked down and saw the two teenagers standing there he was going to go up and give them some marijuana? LOL.

They were selling drugs (or rather, one was selling and one was buying) so I thought he was going to try and buy some himself.

I continue to get a strong Twin Peaks vibe from this show. Maybe it was the big "Who killed Rosie Larsen?" text before the episode started.

DevdogAZ

· #10 · May 4, 2011

It will be interesting to see where they go with the Stan taking Bennet to the "pine barrens." I think we've all assumed that Bennet wasn't the killer because they identified him too early in the show and that there would be a twist. But perhaps the twist is that Stan kills Bennet and then the second half of the season is the cops trying to catch Stan.

I don't actually think that's what's going to happen, but I'm very intrigued to see what Stan is going to do to Bennet. Since I'm also assuming that neither Bennet or his wife are actually the killers, I'm really interested to see how they're going to explain what telescope guy saw.

mostman

· #11 · May 5, 2011

DevdogAZ said:
I'm really interested to see how they're going to explain what telescope guy saw.

Or why Bennet's wife was acting crazy while holding a hammer.

DevdogAZ

· #12 · May 5, 2011

mostman said:
Or why Bennet's wife was acting crazy while holding a hammer.

Exactly. This early in the season, we have to assume that both Bennet and his wife are red herrings, but they're going to have a tough time coming up with a plausible explanation for why Bennet repeatedly lied about seeing Rosie that night, about the wife holding the hammer, and about the neighbor seeing them carry someone out of the house.

Rob Helmerichs

· #13 · May 5, 2011

I'm not a whole lot further in the Danish show than in the American one (which is making for some very strange viewing at times!), and the American show is starting to show some differences. But I will say that in the Danish show, the answers to your questions I've gotten to so far are actually pretty good ones.

MNoelH

· #14 · May 6, 2011

What's the name of the Danish show?

Rob Helmerichs

· #15 · May 6, 2011

MNoelH said:
What's the name of the Danish show?

Forbrydelsen.

Not to be confused with Forbrydelsen II, or Forbrydelsen III.

DevdogAZ

· #16 · May 6, 2011

Rob Helmerichs said:
Forbrydelsen.

Not to be confused with Forbrydelsen II, or Forbrydelsen III.

Is that typical in Denmark to name subsequent seasons of a show like sequels, or can we read into that that in the Danish show, only the concept remains intact between seasons, but the setting, characters, etc. might change completely?

Rob Helmerichs

· #17 · May 6, 2011

I believe it reflects the fact that each season is a complete story in itself. I'm pretty sure (but don't know for sure) that subsequent seasons have the same main characters (on the police side, anyway), but with new cases each year.

I do know that the second season is ten episode, half the length of the first.

mrdazzo7

· #18 · May 6, 2011

mostman said:
Or why Bennet's wife was acting crazy while holding a hammer.

I just read that as her being scared that the truth is finally out... once the cops came back and started banging on the door, she knew taht whatever they did was out there now. The hammer was the only thing handy to defend herself. Who knows.

I agree that Bennett and his wife are red herrings, but I don't think I've ever seen a 'red herring' story with this much pointing towards the guilty party. This being an AMC show I fully trust that the people involved have a cool plan for getting out of this one, though. It's just funny because almost every scene there is another clue pointing to Bennett. First it's the revelation that he and Rosie hung out, then the fact that he married a former student, then he lied twice about seeing her that night, then the cops found chemicals in his possession and all over Rosie's body, and now the neighbor physically saw him carrying out what appears to be her dead body in a carpet.

If he DIDN'T do it, he' s gonna have a hard time convincing a jury. I think IRL the cops would have enough to make an arrest at this point. A lot of the stuff is circumstantial but a lot of it isn't. I think after everything above, he'd definitely be in cuffs.

Rob Helmerichs said:
I do know that the second season is ten episode, half the length of the first.

Are the episodes the same length as US tv shows? I don't think this story would work over *20* weeks. I think 13 episodes is the perfect length for this kind of story.

It must be very interesting for the head writer because she used to work on Cold Case or Without a Trace or some other procedural where every case was wrapped up in 42 minutes (hence why I don't watch procedurals). Now she has 13 episodes to unfold what is essentially the same kind of story. Much more interesting this way.

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MNoelH

· #19 · May 6, 2011

Rob Helmerichs said:
Forbrydelsen.

Not to be confused with Forbrydelsen II, or Forbrydelsen III.

Thank you very much.

Rob Helmerichs

· #20 · May 6, 2011

mrdazzo7 said:
Are the episodes the same length as US tv shows? I don't think this story would work over *20* weeks. I think 13 episodes is the perfect length for this kind of story.

No, they're longer...c. 55 minutes without commercials.

And it works just fine...clearly, the overall story was designed to be that length (or, more likely, that length was chosen because it was what they needed to tell their story; the show was a big hit, so I would guess the only reason the second season was shorter was because the story was shorter).

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