OK, since TiVo doesn't issue a real changelog/buglist, we have to build one ourselves. This is meant to be a changelog/buglist from 14.9 to 20.2 based on a Premiere non-Elite. I will try to keep this #1 posting updated with all the issues as they are listed. The previous changelog, for 14.9, is here: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=480226
This release contains new features, a few significant interface changes, and fixes several bugs. Mostly HDUI changes, there are some significant performance increases there (and none in the SDUI). The rollout for this release is coming surprisingly quickly from the 14.9 update.
1 Non-UI or Both UI
1.1 Both/Non-UI Postive
1.1.1 The update time
took 18 min and 31 seconds on my Premiere which is MUCH faster than previous updates. This might vary some from box-to-box depending on drive size and amount of data on it. And it still no longer gets stuck booting up when the Slide Remote bluetooth dongle is left in the TiVo. This long-standing and frustrating bug appears to remain fixed.
1.1.2 It is reported that the problems with Netflix video/audio sync
introduced in 14.9 have been fixed. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=480590
1.1.3 Multiroom streaming
will be officially supported on this release. This feature enables live-viewing of programs from remote Premieres on the same network.
1.1.4 Supposedly, the OTA tuners
appear to be able to lock onto more channels than previously. When scanning OTA for channels, it will find more stations.
1.1.5 The background of the SD
menus has changed, and it is very significant. This will affect everything in the SDUI and the SD menus used in the HDUI. The background used to be animated (including the logo) and changed color depending on what function you were using. Now, it is a static, mostly blue background with very high-resolution TiVo Guy logo. This matches the background of the HDUI, so it will make transitioning more consistent looking. It is also less distracting for SDUI users. Some people may find this change to be negative instead of positive.
1.2 Both/Non-UI Negative
1.2.1 The Select-Play-Select-9-Play code for displaying the on-screen clock
and play-time-remaining during replays is gone and there is no replacement. Play-time-remaining is available by pressing Play or Pause but the clock is available only by returning to the main menu. It also display seconds, which some people find distracting and unnecessary, and it displays the clock in the center of the screen on HDUI (but lower right corner in SDUI). One person reported having the clock display on HDUI will cause performance and screen drawing issues.
1.2.2 The "This group is empty" bug
that the previous changelog reported as "fixed" in the SDUI, is actually occurring in the HDUI now. It could be it is back in the SDUI, also. This bug will cause the display the above message if one deletes programs in the suggestion list too rapidly, then kick the user back one level in the menu. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=470339
1.2.3 Closed captions
no longer appear on the screen while using 1xFF+ (first fast play) while in the SDUI or HDUI. Margret later explained it was due to technical reasons and implied this feature will not return.
1.2.4 With repeating manual recordings
setup, it is possible that multiple duplicate entries will appear in the recording history as "will not record" with reason of not being in program guide. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=481547
1.2.5 There are some metadata issues
with programs transferred via network to the TiVo. Further, there are some reports of extended metadata missing from programs pulled back from the Premiere, even in a .TiVo format file.
1.2.6 HME (Home Media Engine SDK
) programs might have incorrect text display Also, at least one report of an HME actually crashing the Premiere. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8908963
1.2.7 There are reports that the network transfer speed
is not as fast as it was in 14.9, although it is still faster than it was before 14.9. (It is perhaps 12% slower) http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8909374#post8909374
1.2.8 Recordings on the Premiere, transferred to a computer, then transferred back and played on the Premiere no longer display closed captions
. The captions do exist in the .TiVo files and can be seen on a computer. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8958577#post8958577
2.1 SDUI Positive
2.1.1 The ability to rapidly delete programs
without delays/warnings, using the clear key is back. It was ruined in the 14.9 update because a "Please wait" screen would come up between every keypress. Now it is immediate, just like it used to be!
2.1.2 Resume position
in the SDUI was sometimes lost when returning to TiVo central and replaying a program. For some people it was all the time, others never or occasionally. First reported in 14.9. Same users are reporting it is now fixed. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=480279
2.2 SDUI Negative
2.2.1 Occasionally, when trying to delete a program
from Now Playing using the clear key, it will refuse to delete and offer a "bong" sound, instead. If one goes into the program details, it can be deleted. Or if one leaves Now Playing and returns, it can be deleted.
2.2.2 From my shows, select a program to view description, then back out of it, then play another show using the play button. When using the left arrow to back out of the playback, the cursor/select is not returned
to the program that was just played. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8911517#post8911517
3.1 HDUI Positive
3.1.1 Users are reporting various HDUI performance increases
. Examples include: most screen transitions and information display. Hopefully we will have some more quantitative data later. TiVo says it starting using using Adobe Air with 2.X version software instead of (now-deprecated) Flash use with pre 2.X.
3.1.2 The HDUI now has a newly redesigned guide
(There are two versions, a "Live" guide and a "Grid" guide:
184.108.40.206 It includes more information, such as the episode number, season number, and first air date. Also will display year of release for movies.
220.127.116.11 It also can display a longer time period of schedule on a single screen.
18.104.22.168 Status indicators are displayed. Recording (red circle), to-be-recorded (blue check), and season passes (double check) are indicated in the grid.
22.214.171.124 There is a small live video window on the upper right of the guide screen (although it can't be disabled, see below)
126.96.36.199 There is more room for the channel names. Apparently 8 characters. For example "ESPN..." can now be displayed as "ESPN3HD".
188.8.131.52 A white plus icon will indicate when a program is available from a source or channel that is not available because it is turned off in settings.
184.108.40.206 In both guides, pressing "select" on a current time slot takes you to that program for immediate live viewing, instead of the old behavior of offering recording options.
220.127.116.11 In both guides, pressing "info" on an item at the current time slot will display recording options
18.104.22.168 In the grid guide, shows that are in the past are displayed with a darker color than current or upcoming shows.
3.1.3 The HDUI information pop-up
(press "info" while watching a program):
22.214.171.124 Has changed location to the BOTTOM of the screen (this is a new location for any type of dialog, other than the shuttle/position indicator). (NOTE: While most people like the change, some people find this to be a negative or wish to have user-control over the location).
126.96.36.199 The order of some of the menu entries on it have changed.
188.8.131.52 There is an "UP NEXT" line on the bottom, showing the next scheduled program for the current tuner/channel.
184.108.40.206 The status bar now indicates the status of the tuners as a menu option, even during playback of a recording. Selecting the option will indicate channel and program is on each.
3.1.4 The channel change pop-up
(press chan up/down while watching a program) has also moved location to the BOTTOM of the screen.
3.1.5 There is now a time-of-day clock
displayed on most HDUI menu screens.
3.1.6 Numerous discovery bar changes
220.127.116.11 Includes labels below each picture, telling the user what type of object it is. Examples include "suggestion", "new on demand", "top pick", "popular on web", and "in my shows" (feedback on this addition has been mixed).
18.104.22.168 It contains fewer objects and does not scroll anymore. It has six when live preview is off and four when preview is visible.
22.214.171.124 The bar now fades from dim to bright after an update, instead of just going instantly from dim to bright. This change tends to make the annoying, delayed screen updating of discovery bar elements somewhat less annoying and less noticeable.
126.96.36.199 The options for "less, more, normal" have been changed to allow selection of different types, such as popular, sports, top picks, etc. If you uncheck them all, then it mostly displays entries for what is playing now (there is still no way to turn off the discovery bar).
3.1.7 My Shows now uses "new" labels
beside certain recorded programs and folders. Folders are labeled "new" if they contain any new items. Shows are marked "new" that are marked as "first run".
3.1.8 The delete confirmation dialog
box at the end of a show is now in HD resolution instead of SD.
3.1.9 Hulu Plus
is integrated into the search function.
3.1.10 The shuttle/progress bar
now shows hours and minutes below the bar (like in the SDUI), using hours and min instead of hh:mm format, and the bar is thinner (less tall) and the green area does not fill the whole bar (having a logo on the left and total time on the right).
3.1.11 The search function menu
has changed in design and:
188.8.131.52 It now shows content providers on the right side.
184.108.40.206 It also allows the creation of wishlists based off your search.
220.127.116.11 You can now search for channels by channel name (like "ABC")
3.1.12 The HDUI menu screen animation
has changed. It has a different type of slide-while-fading-in type effect.
3.1.13 The find menu now separates
out the online provider menu entries with a dotted line.
3.1.14 There is a new "mini grid guide
" that will appear when you press "select" while watching a program or live TV. It displays the current channel and the next two channels over a two hour period. Use "clear" to exit it without selecting the program under the cursor.
3.1.15 The station/channel logos
have been updated.
3.1.16 "Top Picks" and "My Favorites" menu entries were removed from "Browse TV & Movies"
. (NOTE: This is not necessarily a "positive").
3.1.17 The green, animated, spinning, busy circle
has been replaced with a blue, animated, spinning, [flower] petal circle. During periods it is visible, all user interaction with the HDUI is halted. (NOTE: This is not really a "positive", just a change).
3.1.18 If there is no working Internet connection
, the Premiere will now allow users to still access program details. Prior, no Internet meant the user could not even select a program to see details or get to playback (play was only available by pressing the play button on the remote). http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8932421#post8932421
3.1.19 Searching for programs while in daylight savings time
would result in program air times that were indicated 1 hour too soon. This has been fixed. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=470874
3.2 HDUI Negative
3.2.1 HDUI Guide
18.104.22.168 When the guide is visible, pressing the "guide" or "clear" button
to dismiss the guide results in the display of the medium-sized info banner, instead. This is unexpected behavior.
22.214.171.124 When scheduling a recording from the HD Program Guide, the guide switches to "SD" mode to display "Please Wait"
and then back to HD for the confirmation dialog.
126.96.36.199 Guide has no way to turn off or stop the live preview in guide
. This is consistent with the old guide behavior, but it does not match the rest of the HDUI, which honors a user preference or allows the user to press "|>" to temporarily stop it.
188.8.131.52 When performing certain actions on programs from the guide, like scheduling or cancelling a recording or changing recording options, the live preview window
might jump to full screen for a few seconds, then go back to the preview window size again.
184.108.40.206 After selecting a show to record from the guide, the guide is reloaded
and the cursor is placed back at the beginning of the list instead of being restored where it was.http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8895588
220.127.116.11 It is no longer possible to select an entry that is scheduled for recording and press clear to cancel the recording
as was possible in the previous version of the guide, if other showings will be recorded. In such cases, it is only possible to cancel through the todo list. CLARIFICATION NEEDED
18.104.22.168 It is no longer possible to turn on any type of filter
based on content type while in the new guide.
22.214.171.124 Programs marked as "new"
show their first aired date as 1 day before the actual date the program is airing. Also, the "new" labels will sometimes disappear when switching to/from grid style to/from live style. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8897804
126.96.36.199 After selecting a program to record
from the grid guide or mini guide, while watching a recording, when it redraws the guide, it places the cursor on the lowest channel instead of on the channel you just were, or on the channel the foreground tuner is using. Curiously, it doesn't do that when in the live guide. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8902409#post8902409
3.2.2 It is no longer possible to use the right arrow to cycle through the different versions of the channel/program info display
3.2.3 You can no longer thumbs up or down
on items in the discovery bar.
3.2.4 HDUI On-Screen-Banner
188.8.131.52 The select button brings up the mini guide now which disrupts entering SPS codes
. However, you can still enter SPS code while playing a Showcase video or while the Info banner is up; or by temporarily switching to SDUI.
184.108.40.206 When entering channel numbers
in "live" TV viewing, on the info banner or mini guide, they stop at 4 digits and do not wrap around as they used to do. So there is no way to correct a typo, you have to wait for the incorrect channel or exit the info banner/mini guide.
220.127.116.11 The first aired date
for the program displayed on the banner is 1 day before the actual aired date. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8951103#post8951103
3.2.5 Some people report that their play/pause location is lost
when switching back and forth between watching two recording programs. It is unclear if this is only HDUI. MORE INFO NEEDED http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8895588#post8895588
3.2.6 Deleting a Program
18.104.22.168 There are times when deleting a program from suggestions, using the clear button, then moving the cursor down a few menu entries, will result in two or more screen redrawings. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8901062
22.214.171.124 There are times when it is seemingly impossible to delete
a program. Such programs will not delete on the TiVo Suggestions screen (the "x" will sit there forever or it just makes the "x" disappear without deleting), nor if selected then deleted. When played back, there is an error displayed about the channel and forces an exit. Sometimes it can be deleted at that point. If played a SECOND time, it will play normally, the user can exit and then delete it. This often happens when trying to stop two recordings and it frequently causes the first to become undeletable/unplayable.
126.96.36.199 There are occasions when trying to delete a program, the popup menu will have no option highlighted
and any key press results in a very low-tone "bong". Usually after a minute, the entire HDUI will restart
, complete with the TiVo intro animation. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=9025455#post9025455 http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=9026619#post9026619
3.2.7 When transferring network video to the Premiere (from, for example, PyTiVo), some users have noticed the HDUI menu screen can "quiver"
or "shake" vertically, rapidly, by a pixel or two. It can also cause light stuttering in HD video playback during the transfer. Confirmed, but not known if this started in 20.2 http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8974053
3.2.8 When performing a one-time record of a show from the Guide
and try to add time to it, if the show is not the next airing, you have to scroll through "upcoming" to find the episode you want to record. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8909900
3.2.9 When deleting a recording that is the lowest menu entry
in a folder,the cursor will be placed at the highest menu entry, when it should have moved up by only one entry. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8953358#post8953358
is still not available while using the HDUI. However, there is mention that the Spring 2012 update will have some parental controls in the HDUI.
4.1 Performance improvements in the HDUI
still do not lead to a completely fluid user interface, mostly due to the delayed, live, internet-based loading of certain information, such as the discovery bar, and program graphics. Some screens take up to 6 seconds to finish drawing/updating everything. Many users report that initial drawing of "My Shows" now takes longer than in the 14.9 update. User expectations and reporting of performance are widely varied.
4.2 The reporting of the program size disk space
is still wrong on the SDUI. They changed it to read "GB" but the reported numbers are 100 times smaller than the actual space it is using. However, in the HDUI, it is correct. First discovered in 14.9. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...d.php?t=480288
4.3 The Premiere is still upconverting to 720P
, even if 480P is selected in video settings. First reported in 14.9. Some suspect it might have to do with needing to display HD overlays and popups when viewing SD material. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=479153
4.4 There are still times when "Stop and Delete
" in the HDUI will stop the program recording but will not delete the program. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8892799#post8892799
4.5 The KidZone dialog bug
for the "Please Wait" dialog when selecting KidZone is still present. The dialog displays almost completely off the screen. This bug was introduced in 14.9.
4.6 When scrolling through wishlists
, it can be very slow when using the channel down button, and presents a "Please Wait" dialog each time. Issue first occurred in 14.9. http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8871667#post8871667
4.7 Some users experience pixelation (macroblocking) when trying to watch Amazon VOD
programming. This bug was introduced as early as early 2011, and might be addressed in the planned Spring 2012 update http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=467790&highlight=Amazon+pixelation&page=3
4.8 When selecting and recording a season pass from the guide
, the Premiere will select the channel of the first airing of that program, rather than the channel on the selected program. Do not know when this started or if this has been that way forever. HDUI ONLY?
4.9 Over-the-air digital broadcasts that contain audio-only programming
(with no video) will not tune on the Premiere.