[DevdogAZ]

Wow! What an ending. Surprised there isn't a thread yet.

Denise really dropped the hammer on Sandra. That was brutal. The thing is that since Denise already had an idol and knew they were voting for her, she could have done this anyway without getting the idol from Sandra, and she didn't leave the TC with an extra idol, so the only reason she did it was to make a "big move." In this season with so many threats, I'm not sure it's a good idea to call so much attention to yourself. I think maybe she should have just played the one idol, saved herself, and not made an enemy of Sandra or tried to showboat by playing both idols.

In the other TC, I really thought Wendell was going to go. It really seemed like the guys were ready to cut him loose. But ultimately, it's probably the right call to get rid of such a big threat in Parv.

On the Survivor Know-It-Alls, they pointed out that the last four boots (Tyson, Rob, Parv, and Sandra) were the only members of the Villains tribe from HvV that were on this season, and they all went out 1, 2, 3, 4 in the same order they went out in HvV. Kind of interesting.

 

[Donbadabon]

Wow. Back to back weeks with the assumed King and Queen voted out. I love it.

During the challenge, I was thinking how dangerous it was to give them knives to hack open the bags of rice after they were clearly exhausted from the water challenge. I was sure someone was going to come away from that bleeding.

And speaking of the bags of rice, what a waste of food! I'm surprised no one scooped some up and put it in their pockets. That could mean an extra meal or two for a few days.

 

[gossamer88]

Sandra deserved that. She has gotten way too cocky and her non-participation in challenges was a bit too much.

 

[dbranco]

The thing is that since Denise already had an idol and knew they were voting for her, she could have done this anyway without getting the idol from Sandra...

If Denise hadn't 'bought' the idol from Sandra, Sandra would have been suspicious since Denise knew she was on the chopping block.

 

[Family]

For a bunch of previous winners this was the worst game play I have ever seen.

What was Sandra thinking? How many times have players making this type of move been burned? What happened to "as long as it's not me" Sandra? Denise wasn't even her ally.

Why would Denise have played the second idol?

They don't show everything, but it appeared Parvarti had an opening with Nick and didn't use it. Why wouldn't she have tried to make a deal with Nick with her steal an idol. Maybe that was a hopeless case and they didn't show her efforts, but it appeared a missed opportunity.

 

[cherry ghost]

Why would Denise have played the second idol?

The only thing I can come up with is she wanted to make sure 100% she and Jeremy were safe. Maybe she thought Sandra was lying to her about them voting for her in order to get her to play the idol and they would vote Jeremy instead.

 

[MikeekiM]

The only thing I can come up with is she wanted to make sure 100% she and Jeremy were safe. Maybe she thought Sandra was lying to her about them voting for her in order to get her to play the idol and they would vote Jeremy instead.

The only reason to play the second idol is if you distrust Sandra...

It would actually be the perfect play for Sandra to sell her HII to Denise and tell her that EVERYONE is voting for her, but then guide all the votes to Jeremy and have Denise's HII purchase be for not. By voting for Sandra and protecting the two of them, she pretty much clinched and guaranteed Sandra's departure...

 

[gweempose]

What was Sandra thinking? How many times have players making this type of move been burned? What happened to "as long as it's not me" Sandra? Denise wasn't even her ally.

That was simply a terrible move by Sandra. I don't see any other way to view it. I knew as soon as she handed her idol to Denise that there was a good chance Denise would flip to script on her. That type of move may have worked on a newbie, but you can't pull something like that on a smart player like Denise.

Why would Denise have played the second idol?

It would actually be the perfect play for Sandra to sell her HII to Denise and tell her that EVERYONE is voting for her, but then guide all the votes to Jeremy and have Denise's HII purchase be for not. By voting for Sandra and protecting the two of them, she pretty much clinched and guaranteed Sandra's departure...

Exactly. Denise played it perfectly. She had no choice but to assume that Sandra might be lying to her. By protecting Jeremy, she guaranteed that Sandra would be the one going home. If she doesn't protect Jeremy and he's the one voted out, then she's REALLY screwed if her tribe loses next week.

 

[gweempose]

In the other TC, I really thought Wendell was going to go. It really seemed like the guys were ready to cut him loose. But ultimately, it's probably the right call to get rid of such a big threat in Parv.

The edit didn't fool me. Those three guys are super tight. Wendell was never in any real danger. Parv and Michelle got screwed royally by the tribe swap.

I'm kind of bummed that most of the legends are now gone. The only person left in the game that would be considered a "Mt. Rushmore" caliber player is Kim. She's actually looking pretty good at the moment despite the weak start.

 

[tivotvaddict]

Sandra had the benefit of seeing how this worked very badly for Kellee the last season, yet still went ahead with it. I'm just surprised to see this move from Sandra. She spent a fire token for an idol then thought she needed to get fire tokens back?

DENISE! All hail the new queen!! That was a baller move that gains her so much street cred.

Wendell, my man, you aren't coming off so well. If this isn't just edit, perhaps take this time to evaluate how your "say it like it is" is coming across to other people as being arrogant and unlikable.

Adam sneaks through again. And Tony Spy Bunkers again. And Tyson Tysons again.

Overall, most players seem to be reverting to their original game play. Other players who recognize that trend will be able to take advantage of that.

 

[MikeekiM]

I'm kind of bummed that most of the legends are now gone.

I agree... Our only hope is that Extinction Island, with all of these alpha male and female winners, can make for a great Extinction Island edit...

 

[realityboy]

The edit didn't fool me. Those three guys are super tight. Wendell was never in any real danger. Parv and Michelle got screwed royally by the tribe swap.

I'm kind of bummed that most of the legends are now gone. The only person left in the game that would be considered a "Mt. Rushmore" caliber player is Kim. She's actually looking pretty good at the moment despite the weak start.

Kim, Yul, & Tony.

 

[gweempose]

I'm just really glad that Tony is still around. The guys is unbelievably entertaining.

What do you guys think about Tyson buying the peanut butter? Was that a smart call, or should he have saved the token for a potential advantage in the challenge to return to the game?

 

[gweempose]

Link to Dalton's recap ...

'Survivor: Winners at War' recap: A legend is born

 

[TriBruin]

I am glad that we are finally seeing the fire tokens being used for something other than buying an advantage from EoE. The players are starting to think of ways they can be used to their advantage in the game. Even though Sandra blew it with her play, at least she tried something. Even my wife said there was no way Michelle would vote out Sandra right after taking the idol. Well, she was wrong (which I will not reminder her of.)

Looking at the items that the players on EoE can buy, the advantage at the return challenge listed a maximum of three. Is that only three players can buy it or a single player can buy up to three advantages?

Right now, I am rooting for Kim or Yul. They are both playing it low right now. I think they can go far.

 

[MikeekiM]

I also love that Sandra low-key disrespected Denise during tribal council, naming all the Survivor "ballers", but left Denise off that list... Look who's the actual baller now Sandra! LOL...

 

[Family]

Exactly. Denise played it perfectly. She had no choice but to assume that Sandra might be lying to her. By protecting Jeremy, she guaranteed that Sandra would be the one going home. If she doesn't protect Jeremy and he's the one voted out, then she's REALLY screwed if her tribe loses next week.

We disagree. The idol in Denise's pocket is more valuable than Jeremy in the game. If she didn't protect Jeremy and her tribe happens to lose, she simply plays the idol next week.

 

[MikeekiM]

We disagree. The idol in Denise's pocket is more valuable than Jeremy in the game. If she didn't protect Jeremy and her tribe happens to lose, she simply plays the idol next week.

I guess it comes down to what was more strategic and important to her... Protecting herself, or ensuring the big move of taking down "The Queen"?

If she didn't play the second idol, saved herself and wrote down Sandra's name, and Sandra did not go home, Sandra would be out for blood and life in camp would be pretty miserable for Denise. And yes, she has protection against getting evicted at the next tribal, but once that idol is fleshed out, she is completely naked and missed out on making the "baller" move of blindsiding "The Queen".

 

[Hcour]

I only have one comment about this week's episode:

PARVATIIIIIIII!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My heart is broken.

 

[tivotvaddict]

Is there a chance Michele and Wendell are totally playing everyone and are really in a super tight alliance? Michele's vote for Wendell simply to get Parvati's tokens (it worked!) and Wendell was on board with that strategy?