[cheesesteak]

I hate Rodney with the intensity of a thousand suns but I really liked this episode. The best episode so far this season. The Sam/Rodney interplay was wonderful.

 

[dcheesi]

Well, we know now that they can use the jumpers underwater ... and there are some pretty big creatures down there.

Technically true, but this feels a lot like a Star Trek tech-o'-the-week element that we'll never hear about again. But perhaps I'll be pleasantly surprised...

 

[Amnesia]

So why is it OK for Atlantis to go underwater without imploding or overtaxing the shields or whatever but not a jumper? Is it just because it doesn't go as deep?

 

[IndyJones1023]

So why is it OK for Atlantis to go underwater without imploding or overtaxing the shields or whatever but not a jumper? Is it just because it doesn't go as deep?

Because it's powered by a ZPM.

 

[Anubys]

which makes the whole "is the puddle jumper a submersible vehicle?" a silly debate...if you can launch a shuttle while Atlantis is under water, it would be logical to conclude that the shuttle works underwater...

 

[Dennis Wilkinson]

Leela: Five thousand feet!
Prof. Farnsworth: Dear Lord, that's over one hundred-fifty atmospheres of pressure.
Fry: How many atmospheres can the ship withstand?
Prof. Farnsworth: Well, it's a spaceship, so I'd say anywhere between zero and one.

 

[mrpantstm]

Good episode. Of any of the characters to have head trauma and argue with themselves, Rodney by far was the best pick. I think Sam was hotter in the pink outfit than in just the bra but that's just me.

Definitly some good lines by Rodney.

To me this is an episode designed at breaking Rodney's character out of his arrogance and opening him up to the audience. I'd be suprised if we don't see a kinder, gentler Rodney McKay after this.

 

[dcheesi]

To me this is an episode designed at breaking Rodney's character out of his arrogance and opening him up to the audience. I'd be suprised if we don't see a kinder, gentler Rodney McKay after this.

Idunno, he's been through many a humbling moment before, and it never seems to have a lasting effect...

 

[JustAllie]

I liked how the sea monster turned out to be friendly, or at least simply curious. Whether intentionally or not, it helped save Rodney's life.

 

[Jonathan_S]

Obviously it didn't advance the plot any, other than to lose one jumper out of an unknown(?) number.

Well, it did two other little things, that while they don't directly advance the plot, I hope will come up again in the future.

While refitting the rescue jumper they mentioned that they were doing work to adapt the jumper bay to X-302 storage. So I guess Atlantis is getting additional integrated defences.

Also, they now have the ability to flip between cloak and shield on the jumpers, which could be a really useful ability at some point in the future.

So they have new toys in the tool box, even if it wasn't an advance on the plot.

 

[Anubys]

the ancients were so advanced, yet didn't program a fail-safe system for when the jumper is too deep under water

 

[IndyJones1023]

Didn't the jumpers already have shields?

 

[Rob Helmerichs]

the ancients were so advanced, yet didn't program a fail-safe system for when the jumper is too deep under water

I don't know, most people probably don't engineer their spaceships to operate under water (see the Futurama quote above, which while amusing is pretty apt).

 

[Anubys]

I don't know, most people probably don't engineer their spaceships to operate under water (see the Futurama quote above, which while amusing is pretty apt).

but they DID engineer them to operate under water!

 

[mrpantstm]

the ancients were so advanced, yet didn't program a fail-safe system for when the jumper is too deep under water

or the city either. (Well they did but not for people to come back.)

 

[busyba]

Ok, after thinking along the same lines as Rodney for most of the episode ("it's my fantasy you can at least take your top off!") I have to say: wet Sam = not hot.

Must be the short hair.

The crappy bra certainly didn't help.

This show really needs to move back to Showtime.

 

[bryan314]

but they DID engineer them to operate under water!

For a super advanced race that built nearly indestructible rings capable of instantaneously traveling across the galaxy, FTL drives capable of moving entire cities to other galaxies, etc; they sure build crappy sub/space ships. If its a (ancient) sub shouldn't it be able handle more than a few thousand feet of water?

 

[IndyJones1023]

Well, Rodney's jumper had previous sustained damage and was repaired by regular old ordinary humans.

 

[windracer]

Oh, and here's my nitpick of the week.

When Rodney finally opens the door of the jumper, all of the water drains out. But in the next shot, Sheppard walks in and then down a ramp to where Rodney is huddled ... yet all of the water somehow drained out up that ramp!

 

[IndyJones1023]

The ramp might have been upward, but the water leaked out the sides.