Star Trek:TNG "The Hunted' (S3E11)

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doom1701

Discussion Starter · Feb 22, 2012

I've fallen so far behind on these. But watched two tonight while I cleaned the basement (thank God for Netflix for the Wii).

This episode and the next had some pretty similar themes, while having very different resolutions. In this episode, it's more the terrorist against the crew, while the next episode is more the crew against the terrorists.

I think I liked the overall "moral" of this story better, although the execution did leave a lot to be desired. The actor in the lead guest role (one of the things I hate about the alien names--I can never remember them) really felt like he belonged on a soap opera. His movement around the Enterprise was pretty silly, and there were an absolute ton of convenient plot holes for him to walk through. Escaping from a transporter beam, knowing how to reprogram systems on the ship, powering a transporter with a phaser...that last one left me totally bewildered.

But the ultimate goal of the story was good, and it had a solid resolution (well, pretty solid, considering they were either going to kill each other or negotiate when Picard left). It presented an interesting moral quandary--if you could create a supersoldier that wound end all war, would you do it...knowing that they supersoldiers would have no purpose afterwards.

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DougF

· #2 · Feb 22, 2012

I'm a bit behind, too, but I did manage to fit this one in last week.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. Decent story, not-great execution and kind of a weak actor in the part. I can't remember his name, but I do recognize him and don't think he's a bad actor, just wasn't suited for this part.

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JYoung

· #3 · Feb 22, 2012

doom1701 said:
The actor in the lead guest role (one of the things I hate about the alien names--I can never remember them) really felt like he belonged on a soap opera.

I agree but TNG was still scrambling a bit for good actors.
Syndicated drama didn't pay as much as network dramas.

doom1701 said:
His movement around the Enterprise was pretty silly, and there were an absolute ton of convenient plot holes for him to walk through. Escaping from a transporter beam, knowing how to reprogram systems on the ship, powering a transporter with a phaser...that last one left me totally bewildered.

If Batman did all of that, would you even bat an eye?

Don't forget that Danar was given the "Captain America" treatment and had some cybernetic enhancements as well.

doom1701 said:
His movement around the Enterprise was pretty silly, and there were an absolute ton of convenient plot holes for him to walk through.

They stated that he didn't show up on the internal sensors due to his enhancements.

doom1701 said:
Escaping from a transporter beam,

That one stretched my disbelief a tad but I chalked it up to those enhancements.

doom1701 said:
knowing how to reprogram systems on the ship,

And yet Batman does this aalllll the time

doom1701 said:
powering a transporter with a phaser...that last one left me totally bewildered.

Not me. I actually read this one being used in Trek fiction even before TNG started airing.

And if I'm remembering correctly, there was a section in the TNG Technical Manual on how all the power systems (including portable devices) were modular and could be swapped in and out easily.
This was supposed to be useful in disaster relief functions.

doom1701 said:
But the ultimate goal of the story was good, and it had a solid resolution (well, pretty solid, considering they were either going to kill each other or negotiate when Picard left). It presented an interesting moral quandary--if you could create a supersoldier that wound end all war, would you do it...knowing that they supersoldiers would have no purpose afterwards.

I agree and I loved how Picard handled it at the end.

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doom1701

Discussion Starter · #4 · Feb 22, 2012

JYoung said:
If Batman did all of that, would you even bat an eye?

If Batman were onboard an advanced alien vessel, and, after spending his entire time on that vessel in the brig, could pop open control panels and reprogram key systems...yeah, I'd have a problem with it. I can almost forgive the Jeffries tube stuff, since Danar went to Engineering first. But knowing precisely what systems to hit and how is beyond "Batman after being stuck in a cage."

And if I'm remembering correctly, there was a section in the TNG Technical Manual on how all the power systems (including portable devices) were modular and could be swapped in and out easily.
This was supposed to be useful in disaster relief functions.

That's probably true, but by just jamming the end of a phaser into the control panel?

One thing I forgot to ask about--is this the first time we've seen the brig and the Jeffries tube sets? I also believe that we got a good shot of the new 4ft model in this episode--until that starts to get used a little more, the higher level of surface detail on it is actually a little distracting.

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JYoung

· #5 · Feb 22, 2012

doom1701 said:
If Batman were onboard an advanced alien vessel, and, after spending his entire time on that vessel in the brig, could pop open control panels and reprogram key systems...yeah, I'd have a problem with it. I can almost forgive the Jeffries tube stuff, since Danar went to Engineering first. But knowing precisely what systems to hit and how is beyond "Batman after being stuck in a cage."

But Batman did this all the time in the animated Justice League.

Even in Star Trek, there are numerous examples of our intrepid crew going aboard an alien vessel or installation and knowing precisely how to operate everything pretty much right away.

doom1701 said:
That's probably true, but by just jamming the end of a phaser into the control panel?

Not totally unlike docking a cell phone or a radio in a charger?

doom1701 said:
One thing I forgot to ask about--is this the first time we've seen the brig and the Jeffries tube sets? I also believe that we got a good shot of the new 4ft model in this episode--until that starts to get used a little more, the higher level of surface detail on it is actually a little distracting.

Yes, and yes although the Jeffries tubes were redone after this episode.

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Snappa77

· #6 · Feb 25, 2012

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gchance

· #7 · Feb 26, 2012

I vividly remember this episode, everything except Zefram Cochrane.

How could I not remember James Cromwell was in this? Man.

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doom1701

Discussion Starter · #8 · Feb 27, 2012

Wasn't Cromwell in one other episode of TNG as well?

Edit: looked it up on Memory Alpha--apparently he was in Birthright Parts 1 and 2, as well as a DS9 episode. This is the only one that didn't have him under an inch of prosthetics, though.

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gchance

· #9 · Feb 27, 2012

doom1701 said:
Wasn't Cromwell in one other episode of TNG as well?

Edit: looked it up on Memory Alpha--apparently he was in Birthright Parts 1 and 2, as well as a DS9 episode. This is the only one that didn't have him under an inch of prosthetics, though.

Yeah, I saw him listed on iMDB as being in it more than once. Pretty cool he continued an association with Trek though.

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