Not much discussion about MoCA here lately. But it's useful to me since I have coax around the house and wanted to use MoCA to not only connect to TiVos in other rooms but to put some Wi-Fi access points in other rooms as well.
So here are some hints as to problems/observations I have. Maybe this will help someone searching for solutions. All for Roamios and a Tivo Mini. This isn't an intro, it assumes you already know the basics.
1) A Roamio is a good bridge between MoCA and Ethernet. However, years ago, I had problems with the bridge function being flakey when the Roamio went to sleep. So I kept the Roamio on the whole time (for years) and never had problems.
2) I replaced the Roamio built in MoCA with the MM1000 and then the MM1025. Speed improved perhaps marginally. I'm using Speedtest and the natural variations on Xfinity swamp the test results. The MM1025s might be a few percent faster than the MM1000s.
3) I believe that using two MM1025 adapters to bridge Ethernet over the local coax network via MoCA isn't meaningfully faster than using two MM1000 adapters. It also isn't meaningfully faster than using two Roamios to bridge.
I never saw rates bump up to MoCA 2.0 or 2.5 speeds. My Xfinity is 300+ mb/s and I get that using Speedtest from an access point that uses Ethernet and goes to my cable modem. When I use a different access point connected by MoCA (between the two MM1025 adapters) to Ethernet and then to the cable modem I only get about 120 mb/s on Speedtest.
Perhaps this is because I still have another Roamio (which is MoCA 1.1) sitting out there on MoCA. This shouldn't matter since MoCA is theoretically point to point. But I don't have a better guess.
I am reasonably confident that I have a good MoCA topology with a TiVo POE filter properly placed. My MoCA network should go faster than it does.
4) The MM1000 is discontinued so you will have to buy the MM1025 if you want one. The two versions do seem to talk to each other OK (but of course that is expected).
5) If you have an older MM1000 you may be tempted to update the software. Ha ha. Foolish human. I used these directions. Well, surprise, surprise, surprise. After the update the MM1000 was no longer accessible on WWW. WTF??? This stymied me for days. Interestingly enough the MM1025 has a different IP address at which you point your browser. Here is the IP address.
Just for fun I tried to access the MM1000 at the address the MM1025 uses and it worked. So, old 1.0.0.8 software means you access MM1000 at 192.168.0.2 while after updating software to 1.0.0.10 you access MM1000 at 169.254.1.1 instead.
6) I am running MoCA without having security keys. Using Point Of Entry MoCA filters should be sufficient to keep my info safe. I also guessed that using encryption might slow down the transfer rate, but I didn't test that.
7) The MM1025 seems to come preconfigured for partial MoCA security and wouldn't work with my old MM1000 until I accessed the web interface and cleared two check boxes: Security Enabled and Advanced Privacy Enabled.
8) I repurposed an MM1000 to deliver Ethernet to a TiVo Mini. Previously the Mini worked fine using MoCA but I wanted to add a Wi-Fi access point there and the Mini won't bridge (at least that's what I read, I didn't actually try it).
9) Bottom line: use the MM1025 adapters if you want to run other stuff over MoCA in addition to your TiVos. But don't waste your money if you only want faster speeds than the TiVos already provide. I ran for years with two Roamio Tivos that communicated over MoCA, with both being set to bridges. This moved bits just as quickly as using two MM1025 adapters.
So here are some hints as to problems/observations I have. Maybe this will help someone searching for solutions. All for Roamios and a Tivo Mini. This isn't an intro, it assumes you already know the basics.
1) A Roamio is a good bridge between MoCA and Ethernet. However, years ago, I had problems with the bridge function being flakey when the Roamio went to sleep. So I kept the Roamio on the whole time (for years) and never had problems.
2) I replaced the Roamio built in MoCA with the MM1000 and then the MM1025. Speed improved perhaps marginally. I'm using Speedtest and the natural variations on Xfinity swamp the test results. The MM1025s might be a few percent faster than the MM1000s.
3) I believe that using two MM1025 adapters to bridge Ethernet over the local coax network via MoCA isn't meaningfully faster than using two MM1000 adapters. It also isn't meaningfully faster than using two Roamios to bridge.
I never saw rates bump up to MoCA 2.0 or 2.5 speeds. My Xfinity is 300+ mb/s and I get that using Speedtest from an access point that uses Ethernet and goes to my cable modem. When I use a different access point connected by MoCA (between the two MM1025 adapters) to Ethernet and then to the cable modem I only get about 120 mb/s on Speedtest.
Perhaps this is because I still have another Roamio (which is MoCA 1.1) sitting out there on MoCA. This shouldn't matter since MoCA is theoretically point to point. But I don't have a better guess.
I am reasonably confident that I have a good MoCA topology with a TiVo POE filter properly placed. My MoCA network should go faster than it does.
4) The MM1000 is discontinued so you will have to buy the MM1025 if you want one. The two versions do seem to talk to each other OK (but of course that is expected).
5) If you have an older MM1000 you may be tempted to update the software. Ha ha. Foolish human. I used these directions. Well, surprise, surprise, surprise. After the update the MM1000 was no longer accessible on WWW. WTF??? This stymied me for days. Interestingly enough the MM1025 has a different IP address at which you point your browser. Here is the IP address.
Just for fun I tried to access the MM1000 at the address the MM1025 uses and it worked. So, old 1.0.0.8 software means you access MM1000 at 192.168.0.2 while after updating software to 1.0.0.10 you access MM1000 at 169.254.1.1 instead.
6) I am running MoCA without having security keys. Using Point Of Entry MoCA filters should be sufficient to keep my info safe. I also guessed that using encryption might slow down the transfer rate, but I didn't test that.
7) The MM1025 seems to come preconfigured for partial MoCA security and wouldn't work with my old MM1000 until I accessed the web interface and cleared two check boxes: Security Enabled and Advanced Privacy Enabled.
8) I repurposed an MM1000 to deliver Ethernet to a TiVo Mini. Previously the Mini worked fine using MoCA but I wanted to add a Wi-Fi access point there and the Mini won't bridge (at least that's what I read, I didn't actually try it).
9) Bottom line: use the MM1025 adapters if you want to run other stuff over MoCA in addition to your TiVos. But don't waste your money if you only want faster speeds than the TiVos already provide. I ran for years with two Roamio Tivos that communicated over MoCA, with both being set to bridges. This moved bits just as quickly as using two MM1025 adapters.
