[Frank_M]

I know there are people who say the HR20-700 is fine, and I hope it will be... but I just got off the phone with DTV and they'll be swapping out my dish and HR10-250 tomorrow.

I feel like I just called the vet to arrange to have a beloved pet put to sleep.

Will actually also be swapping out an old SAT T60 for a second HR20-700, but will still have one TiVo unit functioning in the house... so at least I can visit it some times.

 

[JimSpence]

I won't be swapping, but I will get the HR20 when I need to.

 

[Frank_M]

Well yeah... not swapping, per se. Get to keep/sell the old units. I guess that makes it worse. I have to pack it up and send it off to someone.... like when my parents told me my dog was "going to the farm". That's how I'll rationalize this. I'll be sending my HR10-250 to a farm where it has lots of room to run around!

 

[snickerrrrs]

...to put your HR10-250 into? I think that you'll be less than pleased with the Directv dvr software, so make sure you can swap your Directivo back to your main tv. What's it going to cost you to keep the HR10-250 running, 5 bucks? Well worth it.

 

[Frank_M]

...to put your HR10-250 into? I think that you'll be less than pleased with the Directv dvr software, so make sure you can swap your Directivo back to your main tv. What's it going to cost you to keep the HR10-250 running, 5 bucks? Well worth it.

I'll give it a week or so, absolutely. But if I'm going to sell it, it makes sense to do it soon than later.

And I think (hope) that my expectations for the HR20-700 are sufficiently low that it will at least be able to meet them.

 

[JimSpence]

In my case, the HR20 will be sitting on top of the HR10 replacing the T60. The T60 will go downstairs to sit on top of the DSR6000. I'll have to reduce the DSR6000 to a single tuner since I still plan to have the HTL-HD receiver active.

 

[spooniep]

It's kinda funny/sad that we all have to go through the painful process at DirecTV.... I managed to talk them down from $299 to $99 to $19, all in a matter of 10 minutes and a few hand-offs between CSRs.

Like garlic to a vampire, kryptonite to Superman or the words "Cleaning Woman" to Steve Martin, repeating "Comcast" over and over again to the DirecTV folks seems to do the trick.

Now I get to lay my beloved TiVo to rest in hopes that the trade-offs will be worth it for all the new channels.

 

[Stanley Rohner]

I know there are people who say the HR20-700 is fine, and I hope it will be... but I just got off the phone with DTV and they'll be swapping out my dish and HR10-250 tomorrow.

I feel like I just called the vet to arrange to have a beloved pet put to sleep.

Will actually also be swapping out an old SAT T60 for a second HR20-700, but will still have one TiVo unit functioning in the house... so at least I can visit it some times.

It's also kinda sad the OP doesn't even have an HR20-700 yet and already decided it's bad.

 

[newsposter]

i feel guilty having all this clutter and great OTA reception (thus the need for keeping old tuners) while you guys don't have the space....I will not be selling/trading anything when i add hddvr...already have 2 hd tivos stacked....t60 unsubbed on floor with tons to watch....so the wires may be a plenty but I just can't ever seeing give any of these working machines up. Period.

 

[TyroneShoes]

I think the really sad day will be the day they stop supporting the HR10. I can live with HR10's that can't get M4, even if all SD goes to M4, but I can't live with HR10's that they won't support for OTA. With the new DTV boxes coming out that don't include OTA tuners, it looks like things might be heading that way.

 

[Mark Lopez]

I think that you'll be less than pleased with the Directv dvr software, so make sure you can swap your Directivo back to your main tv.

I love when people make wild assumptions on what others will like or dislike based on thier biases rather than actual facts.

 

[zalusky]

Why not swap out DirecTV!!! or are you handcuffed by the sports packages

 

[newsposter]

how much does it add to a cost of a dvr to include OTA? It must be significant for them not to include it in the new machine , right?

 

[sjberra]

I think the really sad day will be the day they stop supporting the HR10. I can live with HR10's that can't get M4, even if all SD goes to M4, but I can't live with HR10's that they won't support for OTA. With the new DTV boxes coming out that don't include OTA tuners, it looks like things might be heading that way.

sad day for you maybe, given all the issues I had with the HR10 - and now that the HR20 has been installed the only thing that comes to mind is Roy Clarks old song - "Thank God and Greyhound it's Gone"

 

[Sir_winealot]

sad day for you maybe, given all the issues I had with the HR10 - and now that the HR20 has been installed the only thing that comes to mind is Roy Clarks old song - "Thank God and Greyhound it's Gone"

Which brings to mind another popular one..."You Can Put Me In Jail, But My Face Will Still Break Out."

 

[joed32]

I think the really sad day will be the day they stop supporting the HR10. I can live with HR10's that can't get M4, even if all SD goes to M4, but I can't live with HR10's that they won't support for OTA. With the new DTV boxes coming out that don't include OTA tuners, it looks like things might be heading that way.

I think that all of the SD channels going to Mpeg 4 is way out in the future. There really isn't any need for it to happen soon. My HR 10s will be humming along until they die. When I got the HR20s I kept the HR10s active at a cost of $10 a month, 4 extra tuners, 400 hours of SD recording, seems like a bargain to me.

 

[TyroneShoes]

sad day for you maybe...

Well, yes, sj. That's sort of what "I think..." usually implies.

 

[alwayscool]

Why is everyone so hyped about all these D* HD channels? The resolution *ucks and they haven't even rolled out these "new channels". Compare an OTA HD channel to D*'s watered down "HD" and there is no comparison! I'm sticking to my HR10-250's till the day the signal dies. lol

 

[terpfan1980]

Why is everyone so hyped about all these D* HD channels? The resolution *ucks and they haven't even rolled out these "new channels". Compare an OTA HD channel to D*'s watered down "HD" and there is no comparison! I'm sticking to my HR10-250's till the day the signal dies. lol

Because the new channels are being broadcast using a different compression scheme that is much more efficient, and looks a whole lot better than what you will be sticking with on your HR10-250.

And oh, yeah, by the way, there is the ability to receive the local channels in MPEG4 format which saves a very considerable amount of space compared to recording the over-the-air signals (with little or no noticable difference in quality of the recording).

My HR10-250 became my wife/daughter's receiver some time back and I'm plugging along nicely with a receiver that will be getting me a *lot* more HD content very soon. I know I'm waiting impatiently for it to get lit up and will be very happy when it is.

 

[tucsonbill]

how much does it add to a cost of a dvr to include OTA? It must be significant for them not to include it in the new machine , right?

I don't think that's the issue. It's a matter of wanting you to pay them for your locals vs. getting them for free OTA.