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it may be crappy data, but it is also terribly inconsistent/confusing when a show has the "NEW" icon in the guide but will not record if the 1P is simply set to NEW. Requiring new and repeats to record these shows is simply incomprehensible. If the guide knows the show is new why doesn't the 1P software?
The post to which I was responding was talking about the exact opposite - the TiVo recording things because it has insufficient information to determine whether or not an episode is new and has not previously been recorded so records it just in case.

Do you have an example of you're issue?
 

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After a while you will realize that the guide is just a nice thing to have around, but not something to rely on. Like a cat. When using the guide to set a 1P, you have to check the To Do List after a while to see if it accepts what you have done. Most of the time there are no problems. But just most of the time. Exceptions are what you find on this forum.
I disagree. If there are these kind of problems with the data, it doesn't matter how you create the 1P.

There is no need to go to the To Do List to see if the 1P worked. Explore this show->Upcoming should tell you.
 

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I disagree. If there are these kind of problems with the data, it doesn't matter how you create the 1P.

There is no need to go to the To Do List to see if the 1P worked. Explore this show->Upcoming should tell you.
I was trying to help. When I make a 1P the first thing I check is the upcoming episodes. If it says not available to record, I start looking for a reason.
 

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I am now OTA only and my most recorded channel is CW. Since the transition to Rovi, the guide now shows TWO channels where CW used to be: 20-1 and 20-1. One is CW and the other is a religious channel which I can't even receive. What's worse is the channel data is flipflopped...the religious channel has the data for CW and CW has the channel data for the religious channel. New shows start the next week.
Tvguide and Tv.com show the correct information. But if I go to tivo.com online, it shows that nonexistent religious channel that is hogging the spot for CW. Tvguide and TV.com do not show it.

I tried a nearby zipcode other than my own and was able to get rid of that religious channel....but it didn't help. At 20-1 WCCTDT, the meta data is correct but it isn't set to the correct frequency. There is dead space at that frequency. I can still tune CW, also located at 20-1 right above it, but it has no meta data at all and is called "WCCT DT" with a space and does not show in tivo.com's lineup with that name or show up as a duplicate channel.

I have come to the conclusion that they are mapping CW to the wrong frequency. I tried the lineup report for the 3rd time pointing out the frequency issue but that form isn't set up for reporting frequency errors. This is going to take a long time...
 

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I was trying to help. When I make a 1P the first thing I check is the upcoming episodes. If it says not available to record, I start looking for a reason.
I understand, but what I meant was that you can view the Upcoming right from the 1P creation screen and see if they got scheduled.

Also, these days it's probably a good idea to check your To Do List every day.
 

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I will take one more try at this.
Tribune data was open source and free up until 2007. In 2007 the data still remained open source but they started to charge to use it.
Open source means the end user can take the raw data and modify it to meet their needs.
We all know that TiVo, Microsoft, Moxi, and others have used the data and why not as a number of years it was free.
On the other side there is Gemstar, who by the way invented guides and guide data.
Gemstar data is private and written in Gemstar's own programming language. Up until recently anybody who uses Gemstar data will have to use a Gemstar guide and pay for the privilege of using the data and UI. It was never open source.

TiVo's UI is written in their own programming language and does not match the language that Gemstar uses, which is Unix like. TiVo has two options, they either rewrite their UI into Gemstar's unique language or they take Gemstar's data and put it into a sub data base and modify it to work with the TiVo UI.
It is obvious they chose the second idea as this is why we see data for TVGuide.com that is used on tens of millions of Gemstar embedded UIs and TV.com that is unique only to TiVo.

As for the series ID codes, that is another Gemstar invention dating back to 1990 with VCRPlus codes or known as the G Codes. They used a unique algorithm to convert the date, channel, the start time, and duration into a unique 5 to 8 digit code that people could use on their VCRPlus enabled VCRs. They got the unique codes from the TVGuide magazine and various listings data in newspapers. This way the end user did not have to manually program the VCR to record. The only setback at the time was the VCR needed to have the correct date and time set on it by the user.
Gemstar even gave this data to Tribune for free all the way up until 2010 when Gemstar (now Rovi) ended VCRPlus support after they sold off the TVGuide magazine.
TiVo's season pass operates on the same idea that VCRPlus did. They just need to adapt it to work with Gemstar data. You also have to consider that TiVo has used Tribunes open source data for 15 years so they had a lot of time to perfect their algorithms to work without fail.
 

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I am OTA only. The guide update resulted in a lot of my stations showing 'to be announced' in the guide, which hosed my onepasses and made those stations almost useless.

Thanks to the posts here I got an education on what the problem was and I reported those stations with their frequencies to Tivo. Tivo was very quick to add them to my zip code.

I am back in business! My thanks to the 'experts' in this forum for sharing their knowledge and to Tivo for the quick fix :)
Who did you sleep with? It's been over 3 weeks since I reported my OTA issues and I have submitted multiple channel lineup reports. Every time I contact Tivo they tell me they are real busy fixing everybody else's problems...
 

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Since some say this is **the** thread where people get responses to lineup issues, I'm posting this here. It is a double post but I've had this problem for a month now, and have had no response from TiVo after reporting it to their lineup page weeks ago.

I'm in zip code 45315 with the "Time Warner Cable Dayton Standard Cable" lineup. My guide data for channel 1020, WCETHD, has had nothing but "To be announced" since the Rovi changeover. (I do receive this channel).
 

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Since some say this is **the** thread where people get responses to lineup issues, I'm posting this here. It is a double post but I've had this problem for a month now, and have had no response from TiVo after reporting it to their lineup page weeks ago.

I'm in zip code 45315 with the "Time Warner Cable Dayton Standard Cable" lineup. My guide data for channel 1020, WCETHD, has had nothing but "To be announced" since the Rovi changeover. (I do receive this channel).
My understanding is that the TiVo people do not respond to problems posted in this forum. Perhaps you had better submit your problem again in the designated official place. You might try calling customer service as well, but it doesn't look like that method actually does any good. Anyway, if you resubmit your problem, you might have a better chance of seeing a solution. Good luck!
 

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I submitted these channel lineup errors to the TIVO customer support lineup specialist page and got a case number back on 9-3-16 but have saw no resolutions as yet so I will post here and see if TiVoSupport_Sarah or anyone can correct them. Thank you

Charter/Spectrum zip code 37617

ch 182 says ABC should be WAPK-CD and say METV
10-1-16 ch 182 now says MYTV should say METV listings are correct

ch 183 says WKPTDT3 correct but should say Cozi

ch 704 says WCYBDT correct but should say CW

ch 709 says WKPT-CD should be deleted corrected 10-1-16

ch 709 says WJHLDT correct but should say ABC corrected 10-1-16

ch 712 WAPK-CD should be WKPTCD but should say MYTV corrected 10-1-16
edited to correct 182 and 712
 

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I've been waiting over a month to get my lineup fixed.

Zip code: 59330
Provider: Midrivers - All Digital

Problem:
TiVo has program info for channels 1-99.. my programming package is channels 100+ I get NO GUIDE DATA for any of my channels!

Not just me, everybody in the 59330 viewing area. If anybody here can help, please do!
 

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I've been waiting over a month to get my lineup fixed.

Zip code: 59330
Provider: Midrivers - All Digital

Problem:
TiVo has program info for channels 1-99.. my programming package is channels 100+ I get NO GUIDE DATA for any of my channels!

Not just me, everybody in the 59330 viewing area. If anybody here can help, please do!
I don't think anybody here can help. Your cable feed on tv.com doesn't have your lineup. This is a guide problem that only TiVo can fix.
 

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I've been waiting over a month to get my lineup fixed. Zip code: 59330 Provider: Midrivers - All Digital Problem: TiVo has program info for channels 1-99.. my programming package is channels 100+ I get NO GUIDE DATA for any of my channels! Not just me, everybody in the 59330 viewing area. If anybody here can help, please do!
Sounds like they only have an old analog cable lineup for your area and no updated digital one.
 

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Well this may have been discussed here, but now that Tivo has ruined some of my folders, I wonder how long it will take them to clean some of this mess up? My 1P for Once Upon A Time, which I have had for 2-3 seasons, did not have any upcoming recordings. I knew it was starting and checked and there was no reason for it at all, so I made a new one (did not delete the original which looks exactly the same). Now I have 2 separate folders of this show. This does NOT happen for all 1P's though. Lets not even talk about how they put the Type of Survivor in the title causing yet another new folder.

Also I am really getting tired of deleting some of my cable news shows (MSNBC) in the To Do List that do not have the "New" status in subsequent showings later that night (early a.m. actually).

I am thinking about calling them and complaining, but what good would it do since many of us do not pay them anything anymore anyway? Finally, if they cannot get the guide updated correctly daily, they need to change the software to connect more often.
 

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My understanding is that the TiVo people do not respond to problems posted in this forum. .......
This isn't strictly true. For example, TiVoSupport_Sarah started a thread on the Rovi lineup changes and has responded numerous times in the last five weeks (I count 14) both in that thread in in other threads on other topics.

I believe a more accurate statement is that TiVo people have no obligation to monitor or respond on this forum so you're lucky if it happens. I've occasionally posted issues on the official TiVo support forums and haven't found the responses there to be very impressive, frequently less helpful than what you get here. And telephone support? Well it's rather spotty. I am not surprised by that. To spend the money it takes for really good support, TiVo would have to substantially increase their subscription and device prices.
 

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...I have 2 separate folders of this show...
in the past, i have deleted shows from the old folder, then immediately restored the shows from the recently deleted folder, and have had them reappear in the newly created folder.

hope it works for you, please let us know.
 
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