Well the wifi bandwidth is fine, because the mini works with both the Roamio and mini on wifi (with mini using wifi bridge).The Roamio Basic does not have MoCa capability. and since you are using WiFi, they would not connect with proper bandwidth.
The only option for the Roamio Basic is ethernet or using a MoCa adapter.
Yes, if you want MoCa conectivity on your Roamio, you would need a MoCa adapter. Unless you were to go with Ethernet.Well the wifi bandwidth is fine, because the mini works with both the Roamio and mini on wifi (with mini using wifi bridge).
My last time with fios (about 5 years ago) I did not need a moca adapter because the fios router created the moca network and both the roamio and mini were connected only via coax. The hardware this time around is different with the signal coming into the house via ethernet. But my understanding is the ONT still uses that to create a moca network through its coax output.
OK. So the new ONT that Fios uses does not create a moca network like the older routers did? The tech led me to believe they still did.Yes, if you want MoCa conectivity on your Roamio, you would need a MoCa adapter. Unless you were to go with Ethernet.
The Fios Router does not need the adapter since its capable.
It also could be disabled. You would need 2 adapters (router and Roamio) if the router is not capable, otherwise just 1 for Roamio.So the new ONT that Fios uses does not create a moca network like the older routers did? The tech led me to believe they still did.
No, you've got this a bit switched around: The ONT is probably creating a MoCa network, but the Roamio Basic does not have integrated MoCa abilities like the Pro and Plus do, so you'll need a MoCa to Ethernet adapter for it.OK. So the new ONT that Fios uses does not create a moca network like the older routers did? The tech led me to believe they still did.
I'll try to add a moca adapter to the setup and see if that works. For now I'll continue to use the one mini via wifi and wait to setup the rest once I get the moca network set up .
Close. Your prior FiOS setup worked because you had the Roamio connected via Ethernet to the FiOS gateway, and the Minis networked via MoCA (bridged via the FiOS gateway's built-in MoCA bridge).My last time with fios (about 5 years ago) I did not need a moca adapter because the fios router created the moca network and both the roamio and mini were connected only via coax.
(minimal post history made it simple to find)The Fios setup works perfectly. Plugged the TiVos in right out of the box, set them up using the on screen guide, and the Mini connected right up to the Roamio.
Base Roamio plugged into Fios router, and Mini to coax. Fios router takes care of the MOCA network, no adapter required. Hope this can help some people out!
Ideal would be achieved with the Roamio networked via MoCA, per previous suggestions. (Even if you can get it working via a wireless connection, it's preferable to get fixed devices networked via wire where possible, to keep wireless bandwidth reserved for devices that have no other option.)have the Roamio Basic in the living room working fine, connected to WiFi and coax. For some reason the minis aren't seeing the Roamio via moca. I was able to get them to see each other by using a second eero as a wifi bridge and connecting the mini to the ethernet port but this is not ideal.
You're getting terms/devices/functions mixed-up, causing some of the confusion, and I don't believe you've been clear on exactly what your current setup is.OK. So the new ONT that Fios uses does not create a moca network like the older routers did?
What are the symptoms, error messages or codes, that you're seeing?For some reason the minis aren't seeing the Roamio via moca.
This was the issue. I have an Alcatel I-211M-L ont with the connection coming in via fiber optic cable. despite the fios tech telling me that it created a moca network at its coax output, that was not the case. I had also called Fios for support and they told me the same and that I needed a better splitter which they sent me for free, but they just had no idea what they were talking about.My current assumption, that you lack a MoCA bridge at your router,
That is what was supplied by Fios when they installed service a few months back. I believe the router they typically supply is what creates the moca network, and since I didn't want to use their router I am left creating my own moca network. I'm pretty sure if you use their set top boxes they require you to use their router because they communicate via moca. I tried to set it up with only a bridge at the Roamio but there was no moca network for it to connect to until I installed the other adapter at the modem.I thought all Fios installs created Moca networks?
Is that your own ONT or supplied by Fios? It looks like an older model. Can you lease a newer mode from Fios that will create a Moca network for you?
I know you already have the Moca adapters but less in the setup is always better
VZ supplies me this one. I bought it from them though, no rental fees.
Fios Quantum Gateway router | Verizon Internet Support
It creates a Moca network and I need nothing but coax running to my Roamio and Mini.
ONT != router, and FiOS MoCA WAN != MoCA LANI thought all Fios installs created Moca networks?
Is that your own ONT or supplied by Fios? It looks like an older model. Can you lease a newer mode from Fios that will create a Moca network for you?
You're getting terms/devices/functions mixed-up, causing some of the confusion, and I don't believe you've been clear on exactly what your current setup is.
ONT != router
The ONT (Optical Network Terminal) is effectively the modem for your fiber setup. The ONT simply makes the WAN connection available for a router - and it sounds like your current setup is an Ethernet WAN connection from your ONT to your router.
As for MoCA, the ONT only supports MoCA as an alternative link for the WAN connection, and so is irrelevant to your needs for a MoCA LAN network for your TiVos. (Longer: The ONT's MoCA capability is unusable for establishing your MoCA LAN, because the ONT has no connection to your router's LAN, plus an ONT only supports MoCA Band C, channel C4, which isn't compatible with TiVo"s MoCA hardware or retail MoCA adapters, which only operate in the MoCA Band D frequency range.)
In your prior FiOS setup, you were apparently using a FiOS router, which included a built-in MoCA bridge, enabling your Minis' MoCA network connections.
This *is* the case, just not a MoCA network of any use in a FiOS setup configured for an Ethernet WAN connection between the ONT and router, per above. (The ONT is only capable of a MoCA 1.1 band C connection, as a slower alternative to an Ethernet WAN connection. The ONT's MoCA capabilities are moot relative to setting up a MoCA LAN network.)I have an Alcatel I-211M-L ont with the connection coming in via fiber optic cable. despite the fios tech telling me that it created a moca network at its coax output, that was not the case.
