TiVo Community Forum banner
1 - 20 of 32 Posts

·
Well-Known Raconteur
Joined
·
17,863 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
New crime drama on Fox. Tom Payne, Michael Sheen, Bellamy Young, Lou Diamond Phillips, Halston Sage. Payne plays the son of a notorious serial killer (Sheen). He changed his name to escape his dad's stigma, and now works as a profiler. Because as the son of an infamous serial killer, he knows how they think:rolleyes:. Sage is his sister, a TV reporter, and LDP is a NYPD detective who wants to enlist Payne to help him solve murders. Created by Chris Fedak (Chuck), exec produced by Greg Berlanti.

I thought the pilot was ok. Imagine if Criminal Minds married Blacklist and had a baby. Kept my interest for the most part. But I can see losing interest fairly quickly. Interesting cast in part (LDP, MS), but the story will end up being another serial killer/profiler procedural, with the father twist thrown in.

I'll watch another episode before I make a decision. It needs a really strong E2 to keep me.
 

·
Deregistered Snoozer
Joined
·
5,215 Posts
I thought it was OK. I don't think the idea is that just because he's the son of a serial killer he knows how they think. They showed that the father spent a lot of time with the son when he was young, showing him all sorts of things. My suspicion is that there will be a lot more to that which is revealed over time (assuming the show survives)... maybe even the son knew more about his father's crimes at the time and has suppressed it (based on the dreams he was having).

I do agree it will be mostly be a standard crime-of-the-week. We'll see if it's worth keeping for other reasons.
 

·
TiVotee
Joined
·
1,183 Posts
Watched this mostly because I like Halston Sage.

I'll give this another shot, but I did not like the first ep. Malcom Bright is a dull character that I found difficult, if not impossible, to like. The rest of the cast was not given anything to do that helped draw me in. I confess I actually have to like a character or two when I watch a show. Otherwise viewing is an excruciating grind. And I think that's what this show will be.
 

·
Pro Troll Magnet
Joined
·
15,193 Posts
Can't believe no-one's made the obvious Hannibal comparison yet!

I'm on the fence, but only because I like Jesus and Michael Sheen. More of the 'Invasion of the Brits'!!
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
7,925 Posts
I wanted to like this show, but the lead (totally did not realize that he was Jesus from TWD) is totally killing it for me with his over the top wild bug-eyed, hand twitching, cicada song listening, "Hey, he's a little odd, but he's a top notch profiler" mannerisms.

How the heck did they rope LDP into this and any chance they could have found a mother character that actually looks old enough to have a washed up Harvard grad, ex FBI agent son? Bellamy Young is 49, only 12 years older than Tom Payne, and looks both in real life and on the show even less than that.

I'll give E2 a shot, but I think this show is a goner.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,768 Posts
I liked it too - I thought the first 15 minutes were difficult to get into - somewhere around 15 or 20 minutes in, it clicked over for me and became interesting.

I should mention - I also LOVE Jesus from TWD. It took me a little while to recognize him and then I was happy he got his own show.

I think he is great in this including his weird mannerisms.
 

·
Well-Known Raconteur
Joined
·
17,863 Posts
Discussion Starter · #14 ·
Venomous. Not poisonous. Snakes are venomous. Dumb mistake, every writer should know that.

I'm out. This is gonna turn into some big family mystery murder party. It will turn out the wife/mom knew about her husband's/dad's proclivities, maybe even participated. And every case of the week will have a reason for the dad to be involved.

Just not for me.
 

·
TiVotee
Joined
·
1,183 Posts
Venomous. Not poisonous. Snakes are venomous. Dumb mistake, every writer should know that.

I'm out. This is gonna turn into some big family mystery murder party. It will turn out the wife/mom knew about her husband's/dad's proclivities, maybe even participated. And every case of the week will have a reason for the dad to be involved.

Just not for me.
Ditto. I just cannot get into this show. And I loves me Halston Sage.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,768 Posts
After Episode 2 - I think this would be a much better show if he did just have a case of the week and they got rid of Michael Sheen altogether. First of all - that character is a bore. Second of all - how long are we going to have to suffer through that kid's flashbacks about the lady in the box for crying out loud.

One other thing that annoyed the heck outta me last night...
Tom Payne is 36 and his mother Bellamy Young is 49. (Just outta curiosity I just checked and Sheen is 50.) I guess they think it works for the flashbacks but Young reads - well - just TOO young to be Payne's Mom. To me.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,274 Posts
I never would have recognized Jesus if you guys hadn't told me. I still wasn't sure I was watching the right show. But I did like the second episode way better than the first. It has potential. Don't like the drugs and not sleeping thing, though.
 

·
Registered
Ruler of an Unown UI
Joined
·
3,600 Posts
OK look, it's not terrible, and the acting is good. I'm still watching.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
658 Posts
I feel almost guilty for saying I did get some enjoyment out of the first two eps, and I want to continue watching. It's not great, it is flawed, and I have suspended my disbelief to the rafters like a piñata. I actually like the father character more than the son, or maybe it's just that I like one actor's portrayal more than the other's. Yes, the plot twist with the mother is obviously going to be what we all assume the trope says it will be, but I'm returning to watch how that plays out.
 
1 - 20 of 32 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top