you can do that with galleon, right? that's putting the PC back in the loop and requiring it to be on in order to serve the tivo.scott816 said:or even downloading it to a desktop would resolve all those problems. Podcasters would get an accurate account and TIVO users would get pause, FFW and rewind.
Yeah, I was thinking you could buffer the podcast on the unit. Even if you pause it, it could continue to download. If you don't resume after some timeout, it gets flushed.scott816 said:Now downloading the podcast directly to the TIVO would solve the problem or even downloading it to a desktop would resolve all those problems. Podcasters would get an accurate account and TIVO users would get pause, FFW and rewind.
Hmmm...well, off the top of my head, I'd have to say: because TiVo isn't a computer?macmatt said:why doesn't the tivo download the damn podcast to the drive, like every computer in the world?
I don't get the deal with podcasts. Nor do I understand why TiVo is supporting them. Download them to the hard drive? For what purpose? If you want to do that, use your PC. If you want to watch recorded TV, here's a concept: use your TiVo. That's what it was designed for.macmatt said:i was excited about this feature, but it's current implemenation is worthless.
really, completely worthless.
I think that's the mistake right there. Saying "we may as well not support RW/FF on ANY podcasts" makes the entire feature less desirable.TiVoPony said:The decision was made that it would be very confusing to customers to be able to fast forward and rewind some podcasts but not others. So it's not supported for now.
I second this. If TiVo is supposed to be as important a device in the home (media) entertainment arena/center, it needs to have increased podcast capabilities - let's face it, we all need to pause or go forward or back at one time or another.robaustin said:As far as to why TIVO should support podcasts - think about it this way - TIVO becomes more then the center of your TV viewing - it is the center of your media. Most people have their TIVOs in their main entertainment center - which also houses their stereo - so listening to podcasts is a natural extension of doing that in the same place.
Moreover - the eventuality is that all media in your home is controlled from one central place. Anyway. Already some people are not only listening to podcasts as time shifted radio - but they are even ripping their DVDs and putting them on massive hard drives which their TIVOs can access as well - making the TIVO a central media client = getting at your music as well.
Once you begin to put all the pieces together - it's clear where everything is going.
Back to the podcast app - as someone else said - just cache the podcast so you can FF or RW and then delete from the HD - most podcasts are small enough that they would take up <1% of the TIVO's hard drive - and since you'd only cache one at a time anyway...it would be fine.
But I restate my request for the FULL YAHOO PODCAST DIRECTORY to be available and searchable - I HATE typing the damn URLs in.
Hmmmm... sorry HotStuff - TiVo IS a computer! It's just a very specialized one that is oriented toward recording live TV. However it is perfectly capable of doing many other things, just like your home computer. So don't be so quick to roll your eyes.HotStuff2 said:Hmmm...well, off the top of my head, I'd have to say: because TiVo isn't a computer?
In fact, podcasts are NOT only radio - that was only the first widely-distributed use. Video podcasts are already available, and the concept of the podcast applies to all manner of text and multimedia, not just radio. So no reason why TiVo (which we've already established is a fully-capable computer and multimedia device) couldn't handle all the types, including audio-only, video-with-audio, and even text.HotStuff2 said:I don't get the deal with podcasts. Nor do I understand why TiVo is supporting them. Download them to the hard drive? For what purpose? If you want to do that, use your PC. If you want to watch recorded TV, here's a concept: use your TiVo. That's what it was designed for.
TiVo = TV. Podcasts = radio. Therefore, TiVo != podcasts.
Too bad you think podcasting and other features are useless - clearly podcasts of all kinds (including video) have taken the community by storm, so it's not wrong for TiVo to get into this arena - and it's not hard technically. If you like TiVo, and want it to be a player in the whole "home media center" revolution, then they must pursue these hot technologies to be competitive.HotStuff2 said:I think TiVo should stick to what it does best: recording shows. Stop working on useless features, and get the HD CC TiVo out the door by Q1 '06. Thousands - if not tens of thousands - of people are waiting for it!
Yes, this is the obvious solution to a lot of issues raised in this forum. Users could be given the option of "stream and don't save" or "stream and save" or "download and save for future use", pretty much just like the live TV functionality. The podcast functionality was clearly a "version 1.0" thing, and needs work.Aflat said:Instead of streaming it from a server, just cache it on the HDD. That would be the same as users downloading it to their computers, and it would give pause/rewind and ff once it is saved.