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#41 ·
mskvarenina said:
ChatGPT told me this
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That's your biggest mistake. Never rely on ChatGPT for any kind of accurate information. Large Language Models like ChatGPT can (and frequently do) "hallucinate," giving entirely made up answers that might sound good, but are entirely false.

Think of ChatGPT as a much better version of the predictive text that you have on your cell phone that guesses what the next word might be. That's all it is. LLM systems like ChatGPT have a larger library that it draws on that lets it calculate more accurate guesses, but responses from ChatGPT are just software that comes up with one word, then calculates the most probable word that follows that, then the most probable word that follows that, and so on.
 
#42 ·
I am shocked people are not storming the proverbial Bastille over this! 1- Cablevision/Optimum for not supporting the cable cards anymore and 2- TIVO-For not anticipating this and coming up with a solution. They should have partnered with someone. Their interface is way better than most and they have a loyal following. I feel like I am being forced into something inferior. Due to pricing, I am thinking of dropping the cable part of Optimum and going with Hulu since they do skip commercials just not with the same granularity and also not with a single touch of a button. Very frustrating. We do plan on doing like others and riding this out until the bitter end and also hope for a last-minute solution. Keep the faith! LOL.
 
Discussion starter · #44 ·
jamesthomasyap said:
I am shocked people are not storming the proverbial Bastille over this! 1- Cablevision/Optimum for not supporting the cable cards anymore and 2- TIVO-For not anticipating this and coming up with a solution. They should have partnered with someone. Their interface is way better than most and they have a loyal following. I feel like I am being forced into something inferior. Due to pricing, I am thinking of dropping the cable part of Optimum and going with Hulu since they do skip commercials just not with the same granularity and also not with a single touch of a button. Very frustrating. We do plan on doing like others and riding this out until the bitter end and also hope for a last-minute solution. Keep the faith! LOL.
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The Cisco/SA Cablecards have a date bug rendering them not able to decode the channels in Nov, so Optimum is dropping Cablecard support as the Cablecard are/will be broken. I read there is a fix being worked on but Optimum is not interested. As Optimum is/has moving to IPTV service, can’t really blame them for not wanting to spend time and money on a fix for the Cisco/SA bug.

I also wanted to just drop TV and keep Internet, but as this is breaking my Bundle, Optimum would up my Internet fee by double, so I’m dropping all of Optimum and moving to YTTV and T-Mobile Home Internet (the only other option in my area)
 
#45 ·
jamesthomasyap said:
I am shocked people are not storming the proverbial Bastille over this! 1- Cablevision/Optimum for not supporting the cable cards anymore and 2- TIVO-For not anticipating this and coming up with a solution. They should have partnered with someone. Their interface is way better than most and they have a loyal following. I feel like I am being forced into something inferior. Due to pricing, I am thinking of dropping the cable part of Optimum and going with Hulu since they do skip commercials just not with the same granularity and also not with a single touch of a button. Very frustrating. We do plan on doing like others and riding this out until the bitter end and also hope for a last-minute solution. Keep the faith! LOL.
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There is no solution for TiVo to come up with.

Aside from their IPTV product which they offer to other MSO’s. I’m sure they offered it to Optimum. But it’s up to Optimum to want it.
 
#46 ·
cwoody222 said:
There is no solution for TiVo to come up with.

Aside from their IPTV product which they offer to other MSO’s. I’m sure they offered it to Optimum. But it’s up to Optimum to want it.
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I was a pre-day one TiVo guy, but things have changed. Move on to your first party box like everyone else. TiVo is a relic of a previous time.
 
#47 ·
The short version is: times have changed. Technology has changed. And most importantly, how people watch television has changed. Many people have moved on from cable television to on-demand streaming services.

For those who continue to watch "linear television" (cable, satellite, or OTA TV and similar functioning streaming services like YouTubeTV), they often find the DVR offered by the service provider to be "good enough" for the limited amount of television they're actually recording and watching later. As good as TiVo? No, probably not, but "good enough" often wins.

It's simply not worth the investment for service providers to continue to cater to the absolutely minuscule number of remaining TiVo users. (It never was, if we must be honest.)
 
#48 ·
It’s a real shame TiVo never figured out the right formula to move to a streaming platform that incorporated something similar to their traditional TiVo user experience. The current streaming boxes (ie Apple TV, fire tv, Roku, etc) are all still very clunky and fragmented and the streaming providers like YTTV still fall far short of the TiVo experience. A sad day indeed. RIP TiVo from this 25+ year user
 
#49 ·
rcliff said:
It’s a real shame TiVo never figured out the right formula to move to a streaming platform that incorporated something similar to their traditional TiVo user experience.
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It could be that it is not possible to create the same TiVo DVR experience with a cloud DVR.
 
Discussion starter · #50 · (Edited)
Dropped Optimum a few weeks ago. Looked at Hulu Live and YouTube TV for 3 days and decided on YTTV. Yes, TiVo was a better experience, but I'm getting used to YTTV and it will be a fine TiVo replacement
 
#51 ·
Yeah, we dropped Optimum earlier this year. Turned in 3 cablecards and the girls had no idea what they were. Had never seen them before. Replaced cable with YTTV and Frndly TV (History and Outdoor Channels). Stuck an antenna in the attic and converted the Bolts to OTA. Will still use them 'til they die.
 
#52 ·
Confirmed. I’m still running NDS cards without issue 3+ years later despite their warning that they would stop working on 4/1/21. I have the powerkey cards still sitting in their package figuring I’d swap them out when the NDS cards failed since most folks at optimum are clueless about binding and historically it always required several calls and support escalations to get them working. So if you never switched to powerkey cards, perhaps these cards will continue to operate.

 
#53 ·
rcliff said:
Confirmed. I’m still running NDS cards without issue 3+ years later despite their warning that they would stop working on 4/1/21. I have the powerkey cards still sitting in their package figuring I’d swap them out when the NDS cards failed since most folks at optimum are clueless about binding and historically it always required several calls and support escalations to get them working. So if you never switched to powerkey cards, perhaps these cards will continue to operate.

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Wow. It will be interesting to see what happens with these. It would not surprise me at all if they continue to work, as I doubt they are looking to actively disable cards on their end. Of course, if you ever have an issue where you need to pair one of these old cards, they will almost certainly not help you.
 
#54 ·
Good news, maybe! The chief engineer at Optimum in Hendersonville NC confirmed that,
because they use Motorola cards, TiVo will continue to work here.
 
#57 ·
PJFW8 said:
Good news, maybe! The chief engineer at Optimum in Hendersonville NC confirmed that,
because they use Motorola cards, TiVo will continue to work here.
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I was told today that they would replace a timed-out or defective card. No current local plan to stop TyVo support.
 
#58 ·
Just received this from TiVo

Attention TiVo Customer,

We are writing to inform you that cable provider, Altice/Optimum, has discontinued support of the CableCARD in your TiVo DVR, as of October 1, 2024. This is an Altice decision. The digital cable programming in your TiVo DVR will not function after October 24, 2024.

Please contact Altice/Optimum at 1-866-347-4784 with any questions or concerns. After speaking with Altice/Optimum, should you need to cancel your TiVo service you can do so by visiting Cancelling TiVo Service.

TiVo does offer a media streamer as an alternative to cable. This can be ordered online at TiVo Stream 4K.

Sincerely,

TiVo Customer Support
www.tivo.com/support
 
#59 ·
Tony_T said:
Goodbye TiVo :mad: :mad:

So, what are you guys using for Live TV / DVR?
(OTA not an option, out of range)


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Disgraceful Tivo to new buyers or when offering upgrades should have mentioned this possibility of no service. I was mislead and definitely would not have upgraded Tivo had I known. I am notw forced to end up with a useless Tivo Edge for Cable and forced to increase my optimum costs as there is no other C Card service provider in Northern NJ as I understand it.
 
#60 ·
AppleTV ... DirecTV Stream ... Don't look back.
Papi said:
Disgraceful Tivo to new buyers or when offering upgrades should have mentioned this possibility of no service. I was mislead and definitely would not have upgraded Tivo had I known. I am notw forced to end up with a useless Tivo Edge for Cable and forced to increase my optimum costs as there is no other C Card service provider in Northern NJ as I understand it.
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Get an Apple TV and subscribe to DirecTV Stream. Optimum has done us a favor.
 
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