These "open" devices of which they speak are OCAP devices that are, in fact, closed. The cable company decides what software you get on the box. Any vendor can make the box, but the only choices they really have is what color the box will be and how large the hard drive is. In the case of TWC, they will cripple every device with their new Navigator software. So if TiVo made one of these devices, TWC would only allow Navigator to run on it. Not much of a Tivo in that case.