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MythBusters S05E18 "Myth Evolution"

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(Guide data has this listed as "Myth Revolution!" but the on-screen "drawing board" title was "Myth Evolution," and that was the theme of the episode. I'm sticking with that as the title of the episode, and assuming the guide data is wrong.)

No thread on this? Has everyone sort of given up on the series or something?

First off: the Ninja Bullet myth - stupid. Whomever the fan was that submitted that was an idiot. That one was a foregone conclusion, and the only real interesting part was the rig that they made... but the fact that they spent so much time building a rig for a dumb myth made it less interesting. I fast forwarded over this.

The breathing from a tire - I'd have called it "plausible," frankly. They didn't seem to spend much time practicing this, or doing some sort of scale test or above water test, or they too probably would've put it at plausible. There was clearly air coming out of the tire, so that part is valid... it's a question of getting yourself positioned to really plant your face on the tire so that you can actually breathe, I think.

Speed Camera - pretty much what I expected, though I liked the reference to "Top Gear" (they mentioned a "UK car show" that tested it - the video can be viewed on YouTube in three parts). I guess I was kind of surprised by the Lenticular Lens test - it really seemed like it would work once they showed how much it distorted the text when viewed at an angle. Other than that - yeah, more of the same as before.

Airbag Thumb - they don't teach 10/2 hand position anymore? Really? I'd be surprised if that's true, to be honest. (Granted, most people stop driving that way shortly after driver's ed anyway, so it's kind of pointless, but still.) I do have to admit, they did a pretty good job of testing this one.

RFID vs. MRI - Dudes, stop saying "riffid" - it makes you sound like a moron. It's "r-f-i-d". Do they go around calling an ID card an "Id" card? Or the stuff that a radio picks up "riff"? Anyway. Stupid myth, but this was one of the first times that the show really ever recognized Scotty leaving the show ("Back when Tory was Scotty...") -- previously, when they revisited stuff from that era, they've always re-chopped the footage to cut her out of the scene as much as possible. Interesting that Kari was willing to get an RFID tag in her arm. Sorry, I wouldn't myself.
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LoadStar said:
(Guide data has this listed as "Myth Revolution!" but the on-screen "drawing board" title was "Myth Evolution," and that was the theme of the episode. I'm sticking with that as the title of the episode, and assuming the guide data is wrong.)

No thread on this? Has everyone sort of given up on the series or something?
I think you summed it up pretty well.

The tire breathing one would have likely worked if they did half the effort the Mythterns did slapping bullets. My first thought was the mermaids at Weeki Wachee Springs have been doing something similar for decades. They have small bubbling tubes of air the girls breath with so they can continue their shows without surfacing.

Arfid? Even more annoying than the commercials for "voyp" ( VOIP ) a couple years ago.
LoadStar said:
Airbag Thumb - they don't teach 10/2 hand position anymore? Really? I'd be surprised if that's true, to be honest.
Apparently that is true. I was talking with a coworker who has a 16 year old son and he mentioned that they now teach holding the wheel at 4 and 8.
Actually, I have given up on the series. I think they've run out of good urban myths to investigate, and now they're doing stupid stuff like reproducing things from movies and comic books, or things that we know won't work even before they do the experiment.

A lot of Mythbusters now is just excuses to blow stuff up. I like watching stuff blow up, but it's not enough to keep me coming back to the show week after week.
I enjoyed the show as I usually do, but I have to admit some of the methodology is whack these days. Still good fun and I enjoyed it as per usual. I have NOT given up on Adam and Jaime for the same reasons I will probably never give up on the boys at American Chopper. I watch these shows because I like the people that are in them. I enjoy spending time with Adam and Jaime and the rest of the M5 crew, the same as I do with the Teutuls on American Chopper. I'll likely stick with these shows until the bitter end. :p
Found a "breathing from a bubbling tube" video:

It's interesting that Adam & Jamie are doing commercials for The Science Channel, even though their show doesn't air there.
What? You mean evolution is a myth? Whoda thunk it?
mportuesi said:
A lot of Mythbusters now is just excuses to blow stuff up. I like watching stuff blow up, but it's not enough to keep me coming back to the show week after week.
I like watching Kari blow/smash stuff up.
I did find myself really paying attention to where my thumbs are in relationship to my airbag this week. :D

I kept wondering what would happen if they used some kind of metal stabbing straw for the tire myth.
LoadStar said:
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Airbag Thumb - they don't teach 10/2 hand position anymore? Really? I'd be surprised if that's true, to be honest. (Granted, most people stop driving that way shortly after driver's ed anyway, so it's kind of pointless, but still.) I do have to admit, they did a pretty good job of testing this one...
There was an article recently in the AAA magazine about this. They're also apparently suggesting changing from the hand over hand turning method to keeping your hands at the 4 and 8 position and sliding the steering wheel through your hands. It seems that people have had their arms broken by the airbag deploying if they're in an accident while they're turning and their arms are crossed over the steering wheel.
LoadStar said:
The breathing from a tire - I'd have called it "plausible," frankly. They didn't seem to spend much time practicing this, or doing some sort of scale test or above water test, or they too probably would've put it at plausible. There was clearly air coming out of the tire, so that part is valid... it's a question of getting yourself positioned to really plant your face on the tire so that you can actually breathe, I think.
He had a knife in the second try. I thought for sure he was going to cut the valve stem off and breathe from that (since that would give a good seal). Maybe the pressure would be too high?
nirisahn said:
There was an article recently in the AAA magazine about this. They're also apparently suggesting changing from the hand over hand turning method to keeping your hands at the 4 and 8 position and sliding the steering wheel through your hands. It seems that people have had their arms broken by the airbag deploying if they're in an accident while they're turning and their arms are crossed over the steering wheel.
That sounds like a typically idiotic American view on auto accidents: Concentrate on surviving accidents, not on avoiding them. The proper place to put your hands on a steering wheel is the place that allows you to steer most effectively. Not hitting brick walls or other cars is the real way to avoid being hurt by an airbag.

One steering manner that should be better for steering and airbag safety: Don't sit so close to the steering wheel your arms are bent at less that a 90 degree angle. That's going to get in the way of your steering more than your hand positions at any one moment.
Here is an article on seating position for best steering. If you are a NASCAR driver, all bets are off...



One of the first things to prepare before you even turn the key, is a proper seating position. This is often overlooked, or improperly immitated, resulting in poorer car control and premature fatigue.
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LoadStar said:
Interesting that Kari was willing to get an RFID tag in her arm. Sorry, I wouldn't myself.
Especially since RFID tags have been linked to cancer in laboratory rats - as high as 10% of the animals in one study.
pdhenry said:
Especially since RFID tags have been linked to cancer in laboratory rats - as high as 10% of the animals in one study.
wonder if how lab rats are different then other rats(pet). Rats in the pet world are known for getting tumors.
When Adam was trying to breath from the tire it reminded me of something from when I was a kid. Me and a friend were hanging out in his parent's hot tub and he bet me that he could hold his breath longer than I could. We both went under and I came up about a minute later. I waited for him to come up for at least 4 more minutes. I couldn't believe it. Finally he admitted to breathing from the bubble jets that were coming from the sides of the hot tub. I tried it after that and it was very easy to do. Because of this, I was very surprised that Adam wasn't able to breath from the tire.
pdhenry said:
Especially since RFID tags have been linked to cancer in laboratory rats - as high as 10% of the animals in one study.
What about all the chips in dogs?
Yeah, getting a little tired of the "No way that is plausible" myths like a ninja slapping a bullet. This includes most of the movie myths. Adam (and Grant I believe) worked as special effects Hollywood. Heck, Adam worked at ILM for Pete's sake. You would thing that they would know right away that these things were totally unreal. The comic book myths were interesting just to see what kind of gadgets they could make.

I think breathing from a tire is totally plausible. Especially if you let the air displace any water that you get when you open your mouth. It looked to me that he was trying to get a mouthful of air and then "swallow" it. It would seem to me that you should inhale while you have your lips wrapped around the valve stem or the hole in the tire. I'd be willing to bet that Jamie would be able to do it. Mainly based on him being such an experienced diver.
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EvilMidniteBombr said:
You would thing that they would know right away that these things were totally unreal.
Sure, they know. The point is to prove it to the audience. And preferably to look silly and/or blow stuff up while doing so. :D
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