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Being that since about 1970 the MPAA is inconsistent at best, and downright disturbing at worst, I imagine most families have graduated to using commonsensemedia.org and IMDB parent's guide for their movie reviews to find out how much distasteful "artistry" is in a particularly movie.
 

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I'm sorry but if a family is relying on MPAA ratings I feel sorry for the children, the MPAA is a woefully inadequate agency that has done more damage than it has good.
I have far more respect for parents that actually look at the content to make judgement over taking the easy way out and looking at data from a horribly biased and inaccurate movie industry shill group.
 
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I'm sorry but if a family is relying on MPAA ratings I feel sorry for the children, the MPAA is a woefully inadequate agency that has done more damage than it has good.
I have far more respect for parents that actually look at the content to make judgement over taking the easy way out and looking at data from a horribly biased and inaccurate movie industry shill group.
It's another piece of information that now has been removed. G, PG, PG-13, and R are a useful start for families that care about content. If a parent does not know a movie is rated R, she/he would find that small bit of information a time saver.
 

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It's another piece of information that now has been removed. G, PG, PG-13, and R are a useful start for families that care about content. If a parent does not know a movie is rated R, she/he would find that small bit of information a time saver.
If a parent isn't intimately familiar with a movie, one would think they would default to "No" and look it up before viewing with their child. That's what we do, anyway. Any movie I haven't looked up is NOT allowed to be viewed in our house by kids under 15.
If my son or daughters are at a friend's house and they want to view a movie, they know to call and verify that it's a movie we think is appropriate for them (by looking it up) before they start it. This is a no-brainer. You don't sit your kids down in front of content you haven't viewed yourself. That's simply parenting 101.
 

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I think the tech giants want to hook kids into viewing violence, nudity and porn so they can market ads to them.
More twerking is more money, Minaj is a perfect example of this. Everything uncensored on cell phones, now slowly on TV.

Thats why everything is so lax now, look at Pluto, channel surfing will get you violence and sex while channel surfing, and theres no way around it. I think its the sick Silicon Valley culture behind this. Needles, human waste, violence and porn everywhere!

Sure lets let kids watch Leave it to Beaver, hit the up channel button and have a fat A$$ shaking on the TV.
 

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I think the tech giants want to hook kids into viewing violence, nudity and porn so they can market ads to them.
More twerking is more money, Minaj is a perfect example of this. Everything uncensored on cell phones, now slowly on TV.

Thats why everything is so lax now, look at Pluto, channel surfing will get you violence and sex while channel surfing, and theres no way around it. I think its the sick Silicon Valley culture behind this. Needles, human waste, violence and porn everywhere!

Sure lets let kids watch Leave it to Beaver, hit the up channel button and have a fat A$$ shaking on the TV.
Please be sarcasm.
 

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I think the tech giants want to hook kids into viewing violence, nudity and porn so they can market ads to them.
More twerking is more money, Minaj is a perfect example of this. Everything uncensored on cell phones, now slowly on TV.

Thats why everything is so lax now, look at Pluto, channel surfing will get you violence and sex while channel surfing, and theres no way around it. I think its the sick Silicon Valley culture behind this. Needles, human waste, violence and porn everywhere!
I'm not so sure it's a marketing hook as much as it's a changing of the guard, so to speak. Many people in charge of things today grew up without a moral compass, have no children, and don't really care if *your* kid sees a boob now and again. It doesn't affect them.

These same people will shoot you for smoking a cigarette on the front stoop, but will cheer you on if you blow marijuana smoke in a cop's face. If it feels good, they say just do it. Whereas 50-60 years ago you were taught that morality was a good thing. That's a little disjointed, but you get the drift.
 

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So we need some clarity...

Motion picture ratings are for movies and include: G, PG, PG13, R, X and XXX
TV ratings are for TV content and include: TV-Y, TV-Y7, TV-G, TV-PG, TV-14 and TV-MA

I am not in front of my TV at the moment - but the ratings do exist on my the TiVo iPad app for all shows and I tested the parent filter on TiVo several years ago and you can easily lock down content based on ratings. I personally like to see them up front, just for reference - but I never had to build a wall around my children when they were growing up.

Interestingly enough, did you know the original Planet of the Apes was rated G? Charlton Heston's bare ass and all...
 

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Interestingly enough, did you know the original Planet of the Apes was rated G? Charlton Heston's bare butt and all...
Precisely. The inconsistency is surprising. The takeaway is as we originally stated - you can't trust someone else to make those decisions for you. You have to PARENT your children from one end of the spectrum to the other.

Bare butts and weiners ok for your 5 year old? Go for it.
No swearing for your 17 year old? Go for it.

But keep vigilant on what you do or do not approve of in shows. Never trust some half baked idiot to do it for you with an arbitrary rating placed on it by people with no children or any (perceived) vested interest in yours. They often don't consider children "the future", they just think of them as another obstacle in their "freedom of creativity" being spread.

I think I mentioned it before, but you can look up any movie on the Parents Guide of IMDB.com and see exactly what's in there. Or for a more in depth review of content on commonsensemedia.org.

There's also kidsinmind.com, but they're more ambiguous with content descriptions to the point of saying "crap" is indiscernible from "S--t".

Good luck.
 

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So we need some clarity...

Motion picture ratings are for movies and include: G, PG, PG13, R, X and XXX
TV ratings are for TV content and include: TV-Y, TV-Y7, TV-G, TV-PG, TV-14 and TV-MA
TiVo has the tv ratings for movies as well.

An update: I am seeing either MPAA ratings or TV ratings for movies. White Boy Rick has a rating of R while the Adventures of Pluto Nash says TV-PG as examples.
 

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I'm not so sure it's a marketing hook as much as it's a changing of the guard, so to speak. Many people in charge of things today grew up without a moral compass, have no children, and don't really care if *your* kid sees a boob now and again. It doesn't affect them.

These same people will shoot you for smoking a cigarette on the front stoop, but will cheer you on if you blow marijuana smoke in a cop's face. If it feels good, they say just do it. Whereas 50-60 years ago you were taught that morality was a good thing. That's a little disjointed, but you get the drift.
I wouldn't characterize your hyperbolic rant as disjointed. Sanctimonious moralizing would be more accurate.

I don't begrudge you the right to impose whatever standards you feel appropriate for yourself or any minors under your guidance, but it strikes me as hilarious (not to mention ironic given its nurturing function) that you seem to think that the sight of a female breast is going to corrupt the mind of a child growing up in today's media landscape.

I'm 68 years old with grandchildren and great nieces and nephews, and I hope they will all grow up unburdened by such puritanism.
 

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Precisely. The inconsistency is surprising. The takeaway is as we originally stated - you can't trust someone else to make those decisions for you. You have to PARENT your children from one end of the spectrum to the other.

Bare butts and weiners ok for your 5 year old? Go for it.
No swearing for your 17 year old? Go for it.

But keep vigilant on what you do or do not approve of in shows. Never trust some half baked idiot to do it for you with an arbitrary rating placed on it by people with no children or any (perceived) vested interest in yours. They often don't consider children "the future", they just think of them as another obstacle in their "freedom of creativity" being spread.

I think I mentioned it before, but you can look up any movie on the Parents Guide of IMDB.com and see exactly what's in there. Or for a more in depth review of content on commonsensemedia.org.

There's also kidsinmind.com, but they're more ambiguous with content descriptions to the point of saying "crap" is indiscernible from "S--t".

Good luck.
I think I'm pretty glad you weren't my parent when I was growing up. :D
 

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If my son or daughters are at a friend's house and they want to view a movie, they know to call and verify that it's a movie we think is appropriate for them ...
Really? Do you remember being a kid/teenager? Being a teenager is all about trying to push boundaries. If it were as simple as a phone call it would work for underage drinking, smoking pot, having sex. Watching an R rated movies is a rite of passage for teenagers. I fondly remember seeing The Hollywood Knights and Porky's with friends.

I had strict parents growing up but even they knew there was a limit to their control.
 

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Really? Do you remember being a kid/teenager? Being a teenager is all about trying to push boundaries. If it were as simple as a phone call it would work for underage drinking, smoking pot, having sex. Watching an R rated movies is a rite of passage for teenagers. I fondly remember seeing The Hollywood Knights and Porky's with friends.

I had strict parents growing up but even they knew there was a limit to their control.
It was 1981 I was staying at my cousins house and they had HBO: Humanoids from the Deep came on!

As a 14 year old boy, the last thing I was going to do is CALL HOME!
 
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