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Huh? I don't recall the subscription options being any different for Roamio than for any other TiVo.

And if you want a lifetime sub for the Edge OTA rather than paying monthly or yearly you can get one, but it takes over 3 years to break even compared to yearly.
And of course there is the Bolt that was released in between the Roamio and the Edge, but who's counting?
 

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Unless i am Wrong the only Dif between bolt and Edge is the apps being in 4k And OTA on edge is only 2 tuners and that sucks for me. I got recently few months ago from weaknees got a Bolt OTA 4 tuners liftime service all for $300 then got a mini on ebay for bedroom 1/2 price all working good. I wanted the edge but was pulling plug from SAT TV and can't understand why they would go from 4 tuners on bolt to 2 on new edge should of gone from 4 to 6 tuners on OT and alot more would of switch to edge i know i would of. just my 2 cents.
Well, you are limiting your description to the Bolt vs. Edge OTA only models. The Edge for cable has 6 tuners which is the same as the Bolt (and Roamio) cable only models.

In all cases, the Bolt can do 4K (including QAM 4K).
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The following TiVo devices support 4K:
  • TiVo EDGE Series
  • TiVo BOLT Series
  • TiVo Mini VOX and Mini LUX
The only real difference between the Bolt and the Edge (besides obviously the case), is that all models of the Bolt (besides the Bolt OTA model) can be downgraded to Version 20/TE3. And the Edge is faster.

EDIT: I thought of another difference, I believe the Edge runs cooler based on the lack of complaints. The Bolt had tons of complaints about a noisy fan (or really the fan connection to the MB) and overheating, which caused premature hard drive failures. AAMOF, I have a fan under my Bolt Vox aimed at the cableCARD myself, because it feels too hot without it.
 

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Thanks for info but since i was coming from SAT tv and cutting chord i wasn't going to jump in Cable Tv over prices cards that i hear are no longer even being given out by Comcast. So my reasearch brought me to OTA only and what OTA equipment and price will give to me. Since i had all 4k apps from my 2021 Sony Bravo Google TV i found the Bolt made most sense cost wize. But if the new Edge OTA only would of been 4 or 6 tuners cost aside i may have got the newer equipment.
I totally get that. It's just that others reading your post might not understand that there are other units by the same name that DO still have 6 tuners, and I'm also pointing out that all Bolts support 4K, which you mentioned might be different from the Edge.

EDIT: Also, I wanted to point out, I think you made the right call getting the Bolt from Weaknees for $300. Good deal.
 

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I am really wondering about that 4k apps on Bolt. I have a Apple Tv and run Hulu on it and put the Hulu app on bolt and when it comes down to it i see a big quality difference in picture i notices on Apple Hulu ver Bold Hulu. App.
The apps on all TiVo's suck. There is no doubt about it. You are better off using your ATV. The post I referred to only mentions two apps that are 4K, Netflix and Youtube, so for all I know, those are the only two that work. But, for example, I am on Fios and Fios offers some 4K content with special channels, and the Bolt works fine in 4K on those channels.
 
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