Logically, if I don't want to lose TIVO, will this work

I don't think that would work. The new TiVo HD and S3 only have coax input for antenna and cable. There are no "open" input connections that allow for a simple signal feed to come in (meaning, already passed through your H20).

You are in a boat that is loading with more and more passengers. If you want to stay with DTV, you will have to go with the HR20. More info on dbstalk.com If you want to stay with TiVo, you will need to switch to cable or FiOS (if available), and get an S3 or HD. I did the latter.

There are rumors that DTV and TiVo might be working together again, but that might only be wishful thinking. Good luck.

No way to pass HD thru the HD Tivo from the H20.

No control of the H20 from the Tivo.

Just get an HR20. Don't let people scare you away.

Just spoke to weakknees, and they confirmed this wouldn't work.

Should I buy through D* or weakknees?

TonyD79 said:

..Just get an HR20. Don't let people scare you away.

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As of yesterday people were still getting the $19 deal and free programming credits on the HR20. The TiVos that Weaknees is selling are not able to receive the new HD channels.

- Craig

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JohnB1000 said:

DBSTalk is currently closed

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This has to do with this thread how?

Nevermind...saw the link was to dbstalk....

Remember, any new DirecTV box requires a 2-yr agreement, so if you don't like it, you could be out up to $300.

John, Sorry about that.

Now that DBSTalk is back up,
Here is the link to getting the HR20 deal.

You can have the best of both worlds.

- Craig

RS4 said:

Remember, any new DirecTV box requires a 2-yr agreement, so if you don't like it, you could be out up to $300.

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Just advanced boxes like DVR's. Standard receivers come with a one year pro-rated commitment.

It's prorated based on how long you do keep your service active. Contrast that with the flat fee if you cancel TiVo service before your commitment with them expires.

Was that a half truth RS4 or just a mistake. .......don't answer that, I know you just made a mistake.

vcrindc said:

I have an TIVO branded HD receiver from D*.

I want all of the new HD channels (if they ever come out) but do NOT want to lose my TIVO.

Could I:

1. Buy and H20 (note, NOTE an HR20, but the H20, which is the HD receiver with no DVR).
2. Buy a new HD tivo.
3. Hook them both up.

Would this work?
If so, would I lose any functionality?

THANKS IN ADVANCE,

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What kind of TiVo do you have today? HR10-250?

OK ... getting confused now...

Is there just a HD receiver without TIVO available from D* ???? Probably not a topic for this forum (TIVO). But I have 2 receivers --- an HR10-250 and an older SD (non-TIVO) ... For a specific reason, I have no deisre to upgrade the non-TIVO unit to the HR20 TIVO unit .... but I DO want HD reception on it.

Sure you can get the H20 which is just a receiver. You won't however be able to use that receiver in conjunction with your Tivo's. They won't be able to record from it.

milominderbinder said:

As of yesterday people were still getting the $19 deal and free programming credits on the HR20. The TiVos that Weaknees is selling are not able to receive the new HD channels.

- Craig

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Me thinks that your whole goal on this site is getting people to switch to the HR20. Bad grammar on my part and all. Too fishy to me. Your posts seem to mostly steer people to DBSTalk and to the HR20. What is going on? All of the sudden you appear on Tivo Community Forum after being a big time poster on DBS.

Billy66 said:

Just advanced boxes like DVR's. Standard receivers come with a one year pro-rated commitment.

It's prorated based on how long you do keep your service active. Contrast that with the flat fee if you cancel TiVo service before your commitment with them expires.

Was that a half truth RS4 or just a mistake. .......don't answer that, I know you just made a mistake.

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My bad, Billy I was thinking about the advanced dvr. Of course, it's still ridiculous to not have a test period which I believe Tivo has - says what kind of faith DirecTV has in their products - big bullies.

Just keep the HD DirecTiVo (HR10-250) you have and get the new DirecTV HD DVR (HR20) for just the Shipping price ($20 +Tax). Hook them both to the same TV and that way you can continue using the TiVo you currently have for everything like you do now, and when you want to watch/record any of the NEW HD channels, you'll have the new DVR to do that as a back up. Thats what I did and it's working really smoothly. You get the best of both worlds - 8 total Tuners , 3 Live buffers (one of them up to 90 minutes) , 550+ GB Hard Drive, 400+ hrs of recording time (including up to 80 hrs HD recording, Networking capability, Keep TiVo's suggestions & Unlimited Season Pass coverage , PIP/Split Screen capability between the 2 receivers. I highly recommend this route.

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My bad, Billy I was thinking about the advanced dvr. Of course, it's still ridiculous to not have a test period which I believe Tivo has - says what kind of faith DirecTV has in their products - big bullies.

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I was just giving you sh1t man.

We don't agree about most of this but I respect your humanity RS4.

He's in my "ignore list" as I am tired of his constant spamming in virtually every thread where the word "HR20" is present, but I saw your quote of his message and comment. Where Mr. Ebonovic is a souce of usually good info Mr. Millionbinderwinder is just a plain old spammer with probably 100+ (of his current 123 messages) stating the same exact thing.

Anyway, while this is slightly off the TiVo topic I just read an interesting article in PC Magazine, October 2nd issue. It's on page 18 in the "Front Side" column and talks about Corporate "Sock Puppets" and a practice called "astroturfing" (4th paragraph). It was "astroturfing" that I found interesting. Here is a link to the article on PC Magazine.com. I didn't want to copy & paste it as is (c) material. Corporate Sock Puppets PC Magazine 10/2/07.

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Me thinks that your whole goal on this site is getting people to switch to the HR20. Bad grammar on my part and all. Too fishy to me. Your posts seem to mostly steer people to DBSTalk and to the HR20. What is going on? All of the sudden you appear on Tivo Community Forum after being a big time poster on DBS.

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fjwagner said:

Me thinks that your whole goal on this site is getting people to switch to the HR20. Bad grammar on my part and all. Too fishy to me. Your posts seem to mostly steer people to DBSTalk and to the HR20. What is going on? All of the sudden you appear on TiVo Community Forum after being a big time poster on DBS.

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I own TiVo and am a fan. I own an HR20 and am a fan. Both have their strengths.

The OP asked and then clarified whether to get the HD TiVo for the new HD channels from Weaknees or DIRECTV. No receiver for the new DIRECTV channels is an HD TiVo DVR.

His whole point was to get the new HD channels. We owed it to him to let him know that he might very well be able to get a DIRECTV HD DVR for free. Programming credits could also cover the $120 24 month lease fees. So it could really be free.

We also owed it to him to let him know that the Weaknees HD TiVo will not be able to get the new channels. It sounded like he got off the phone with them not understanding that.

Our goal is to provide good, complete information.

- Craig

xtc said:

Just keep the HD DirecTiVo (HR10-250) you have and get the new DirecTV HD DVR (HR20) for just the Shipping price ($20 +Tax). Hook them both to the same TV and that way you can continue using the TiVo you currently have for everything like you do now, and when you want to watch/record any of the NEW HD channels, you'll have the new DVR to do that as a back up. Thats what I did and it's working really smoothly. You get the best of both worlds - 8 total Tuners , 3 Live buffers (one of them up to 90 minutes) , 550+ GB Hard Drive, 400+ hrs of recording time (including up to 80 hrs HD recording, Networking capability, Keep TiVo's suggestions & Unlimited Season Pass coverage , PIP/Split Screen capability between the 2 receivers. I highly recommend this route.

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That is the best of both worlds!

- Craig