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· Statistical outlier
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Better than last week. Nice to see the owners have some balls and fire the kitchen staff when they so clearly deserved it.

Same basic complaints exist, though. They need to stop the jerky editing and constant music. They toned down on the ADD commercial reminders somewhat, but they need to do more in that respect. They need to show more food prep, and I would've liked to actually see Ramsay search out the new chef. The way they announced it, it seemed like firing the current two chefs was a given before production began.

Wonder how much he ended up selling it for.
 

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Neenahboy said:
Better than last week. Nice to see the owners have some balls and fire the kitchen staff when they so clearly deserved it.
Yeah but... how long did it take that owner's balls to drop? Even after following the advice to can the chefs (who both should have been canned long ago and should at least have tried a little cooperation if they wanted to hold on to their jobs and see the restaurant survive) the owner/manager was still eerily similar to 'Hooks' from the police academy movies. :p

Neenahboy said:
Same basic complaints exist, though. They need to stop the jerky editing and constant music. They toned down on the ADD commercial reminders somewhat, but they need to do more in that respect. They need to show more food prep, and I would've liked to actually see Ramsay search out the new chef. The way they announced it, it seemed like firing the current two chefs was a given before production began.
Yeah, there's still a lot of things that we don't see that would be interesting and would make the show more compelling I would think.

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Wonder how much he ended up selling it for.
Good question. I can understand not revealing that for the sake of privacy for the new owners, but it leaves us wondering how dramatic the increase in value of the restaurant was (which we might have been able to estimate based on what the sale price was...)
 

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bdowell said:
Good question. I can understand not revealing that for the sake of privacy for the new owners, but it leaves us wondering how dramatic the increase in value of the restaurant was (which we might have been able to estimate based on what the sale price was...)
It's a matter of public record, so if someone REALLY wanted to find out...
 

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WhaHuh?


In one scene the owner's tie changed three times...

That's some fancy (and bad) editing.



I was glad to see some cooks finally fired, especially when they showed zero interest in getting better or learning.
 

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A little better than other episodes.

I guess I just like Gordon yelling at shiftless people that suck and don't give a flip. :)

Is the whole shutting down the restaurant thing something they do because it's what he does when he gets really pissed off in Hells Kitchen? I've never seen the British version. Does he shut down restaurants in that show?
 

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Three restaurants, three crab cakes..all awful. It's the one thing GR always goes for. And never likes them.

I have never worked in a restaurant, but every one of these kitchens is a horrible mess. How can they pass the Health Dept. How clean are the ones that don't make it on the show.
 

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jsmeeker said:
I've never seen the British version. Does he shut down restaurants in that show?
Not that I can recall. There were a couple that needed major cleaning but he's never done his "SHUT IT DOWN!" act.

record some BBCA episodes or get the torrents and you'll see why this version is crap.
 

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jsmeeker said:
A little better than other episodes.

I guess I just like Gordon yelling at shiftless people that suck and don't give a flip. :)

Is the whole shutting down the restaurant thing something they do because it's what he does when he gets really pissed off in Hells Kitchen? I've never seen the British version. Does he shut down restaurants in that show?
Gordon said himself on the show that he's never had to do that before. I'm guessing this episode was filmed before the other show about Dillions. The British shows havn't been as big of nightmares as the US shows. I think that has to do with the resteraunts they pick though.

Seems like the US version is looking for more shock factor, and they have a budget to push them back into shape easier. In the British show he doesn't spend any money on the place, so I doubt they would take on the types of nightmares they do in the US.
 

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I am very close to deleting this season pass. The ending was VERY abrupt.... I was thinking with < 3 min left, how are they going to follow up?

I bet if they didn't have that large montage of what we already saw, and what we are about to see in the beginning of the sho, and lead in & out of every commercial, we could get more actual show time?

I would be very suspect of those repairs 'Gordon's team' did... to do all that work in one day, with some of the rotting wood, etc .. that is just quickly putting a new face on it, not an actual repair. What happened with the smell & sewage ?

So... all that cash went into the place, making it more attractive to buyers, and he sells. Does FOX get a cut?

Chefs that don't get proper cleaning & food storage should be fired. If they didn't get it in all that time, then there is no way that they would get it in a few days. All the previous chefs on the past episodes should have been fired (Except last week, the owner / chef kept the place clean)

This show is just way too fake for me. I know nothing of managing a restaurant , and I could see though a few things
 

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I like the show, but was the chowder cook off done before the renovation? All of the walls and tables were still white. Unless it was in another room that was not renovated. That with the tie and shirt changes kind of bugged me.

If I was the "chef", I would not have signed the release out of shame. I wonder if they paid him for the release?

Edit: I forgot to add that I had to FF through the boxing, I just could not take it. I did not see it but from the recaplet on TWOP it sounded pretty bad.

Jeff
 

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I really didn't enjoy this episode, I still have 10 minutes to watch of it.

Was the boxing scene the dumbest piece of crap ever put on the screen?

I HATED the owner and his mother. The owner was a whiney, spineless mommas boy.

The owner didn't have balls, he didn't even have the guts to say 'You guys are out of here'. He said something to the effect of 'You guys dont' come in tomorrow'. And then the chef was the man that said 'Are we done'. Those aren't the exact words, but it showed that everyone besides the waitstaff stunk there, as bad as the restaurant.
 

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RoundBoy said:
I am very close to deleting this season pass. The ending was VERY abrupt.... I was thinking with < 3 min left, how are they going to follow up?

I bet if they didn't have that large montage of what we already saw, and what we are about to see in the beginning of the sho, and lead in & out of every commercial, we could get more actual show time?

I would be very suspect of those repairs 'Gordon's team' did... to do all that work in one day, with some of the rotting wood, etc .. that is just quickly putting a new face on it, not an actual repair. What happened with the smell & sewage ?

So... all that cash went into the place, making it more attractive to buyers, and he sells. Does FOX get a cut?

Chefs that don't get proper cleaning & food storage should be fired. If they didn't get it in all that time, then there is no way that they would get it in a few days. All the previous chefs on the past episodes should have been fired (Except last week, the owner / chef kept the place clean)

This show is just way too fake for me. I know nothing of managing a restaurant , and I could see though a few things
I agree with that, and add that they don't need these "Race for Kids" and "Chowder Cookoff" crud.

While I've seen 50 workers come in and redo a building in 24 hours with top-quality workmanship and materials, they should show us some of that. Otherwise I too think they just slapped up some red paint and called it a remodel.
 

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Three restaurants, three crab cakes..all awful. It's the one thing GR always goes for. And never likes them.
It's true he does order them, but if you recall he was quite pleased with the ones at the Melting Pot. He said they were quite fresh and he was surprised considering how drab the restaurant was...
 

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I think a crab cake can be a pretty simple test to see if the restaurant takes it food seriously.

Are the frozen crab cakes that come in a big box or bag made with little crab and lots of binder, or are they made fresh in house with large chunks of crab meat and very little, if any, binder?

Gordon can tell in a second what's going on.



The motivation gimmicks are silly. But I think the real problem in most of these situations so far is that we have a bunch of people running the restaurants that either flat out don't give a damn or are totally clueless.

I can't record stuff off of BBCA since I don't get that channel. Are they featuring restaurants with competent owners/operators/chefs serving good quality food that somehow fail to do good business?
 

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I can't record stuff off of BBCA since I don't get that channel. Are they featuring restaurants with competent owners/operators/chefs serving good quality food that somehow fail to do good business?
I saw some clips, and he gets into pricing, portion size, asking locals their opinion, etc. Seemed more varied and more realistic.
 

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jsmeeker said:
I can't record stuff off of BBCA since I don't get that channel. Are they featuring restaurants with competent owners/operators/chefs serving good quality food that somehow fail to do good business?
It varies quite a bit from restaurants that have veered too far from what got them popular to owners that have no idea to stubborn old chefs that won't change their ways. I agree that the BBCA version does seem more realistic, I just get tired of hearing how much better it is in every single thread. It reminds of those people that read the book before they see the movie and they continue to nit pick about everything that wasn't the same.
 

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i totally forgot about the boxing match. I FF through most of it because i knew it was crap.

Out of all the episodes showed so far, the 'Melting Pot' was the only one close to the BBC program, and the only one worth it.

That place was loosing money due to a lack of menu & energy... gordon came in and gave him some new ideas.

any place that had moldy food / insects / mold should have had the chefs fired before anything.. I still thing that them walking into a revamped front end (or kitchen too) is BS. And all new food, and possibly new containers as well!

There has to be some word in the neighborhood about GR coming... because last night the mother said 'Gordon wants us to close for tomorrow' ... and supposedly a day later, they have a 20 min wait for the open when they can hardly break 20 people a day.

Lets just call this show "Gordon Ramsey gives you tens of thousands of the networks money, so he can call you a ****ing donkey"
 

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I watched it but it seems so scripted. He finds a mess, he yells, he cleans it up.

I enjoyed moments, but it is not a SP for me. Just a watch in passing show.

Maybe the place was sold because the manager just couldn't hold on to the balls he had finally found and decided to get out.
 
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