I was gonna ask exactly the same thing.aus1ander said:The only good thing about this show is Shaun is gone.
An apparently "everything is revealed" in the season finale. Anyone actually buy that?
My wife was trying to explain this show to her sister, and she said, "it's kind of like Twin Peaks."Knives of Ice said:the closed down bar reminds me of the red room in twin peaks.
The only thing that I know of that approaches this level of "WTF?" was Carnivale Season 1. At least that was a little more cohesive, and you could see some progression between episodes. JFC, while compelling for the various Deadwood parallels, is also quite a jumbled mess.Family said:Never have I watched a show this long and understood this little.
Don't forget the parakeet, he is missing as well.TAsunder said:The only "confusing" thing in this episode is what exactly happened to shaun and what john is all about. Those are mysteries we are supposed to be pondering.
Jesus christ jesus christ jesus christ, how could I forget that?phox_mulder said:Don't forget the parakeet, he is missing as well.
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Agreed. The episodes, as stand alone entities, are frequently understandable and enjoyable. That's not my point. What I'm getting at, is when you take them all together, as a single narrative, that is when things start to not to make a whole lot of sense. We've been presented with a numerous events that don't have a lot of cohesion between them.TAsunder said:Jumbled mess? I had no problem understanding any of the scenes this time around, except perhaps not being sure what was going on with barry - seemed like it reminded him of his molestation as a kid.
The only "confusing" thing in this episode is what exactly happened to shaun and what john is all about. Those are mysteries we are supposed to be pondering.
Perfect response! I was hoping you'd say that.TAsunder said:Jesus christ jesus christ jesus christ, how could I forget that?
For instance, Mitch's levitation, which started early in the very first episode, seems to have absolutely no relation to anything at all in the show - we don't know a damn thing about why he levitated, why other characters haven't levitated, whether he'll continue to levitate, whether it's tied in with the other mysterious goings-on, whether John is orchestrating it, etc. etc.PaulS said:Agreed. The episodes, as stand alone entities, are frequently understandable and enjoyable. That's not my point. What I'm getting at, is when you take them all together, as a single narrative, that is when things start to not to make a whole lot of sense. We've been presented with a numerous events that don't have a lot of cohesion between them.
Or where the hell Mitch was for the multiple episodes between the last time we saw him, and when he decided to turn up at the Chemist's last night...Bananfish said:For instance, Mitch's levitation, which started early in the very first episode, seems to have absolutely no relation to anything at all in the show - we don't know a damn thing about why he levitated, why other characters haven't levitated, whether he'll continue to levitate, whether it's tied in with the other mysterious goings-on, whether John is orchestrating it, etc. etc.
Another example: Shaun's appearances in Barry's bar. Are they merely figments of Barry's imagination? If so, why is he imagining Shaun there? Can anyone else see Shaun there? Are the appearances related to some overarching thing that's going on related to John? etc. etc.
Or how about John's appearances to Cissy? What's the point of those?
There are many of these events that from a one-episode viewpoint are kind of interesting, but from the long-term viewpoint appear to be merely random and pointless. I won't stay interested in random and pointless forever.
He was in Baja, Mexico. That's where the chemist (Dr. Johnny Fever) lived. Presumably, Mitch was seeking enlightenment. And dodging reality.PaulS said:Or where the hell Mitch was for the multiple episodes between the last time we saw him, and when he decided to turn up at the Chemist's last night...
Well, of course he was (on all counts). It just seemed kinda wierd that throughtout the show, we've always observed just about all of the characters doing something at all times, no matter how inconsequential those actions were. Take the Chemist sweeping, for example. Or Cass endlessly watching video in her hotel room for days on end, over and over and over. Or the two Hawaiians doing whatever in their hotel rooms.InterMurph said:He was in Baja, Mexico. That's where the chemist (Dr. Johnny Fever) lived. Presumably, Mitch was seeking enlightenment. And dodging reality.
How can you say Mitch's levitation has no relation to what's going on? John showed up and he levitated. Coincidence? Other male Yosts have exhibited some sort of supernatural occurrence (Shaun brought back to life by Zippy, and Butchie's inability to get high or dope sick). Seems to me that John's presence has a significant effect on three of the main male characters. No relation? You must be smoking some of that stuff Vietnam Joe has been growing.Bananfish said:For instance, Mitch's levitation, which started early in the very first episode, seems to have absolutely no relation to anything at all in the show - we don't know a damn thing about why he levitated, why other characters haven't levitated, whether he'll continue to levitate, whether it's tied in with the other mysterious goings-on, whether John is orchestrating it, etc. etc.
Another example: Shaun's appearances in Barry's bar. Are they merely figments of Barry's imagination? If so, why is he imagining Shaun there? Can anyone else see Shaun there? Are the appearances related to some overarching thing that's going on related to John? etc. etc.
Or how about John's appearances to Cissy? What's the point of those?
There are many of these events that from a one-episode viewpoint are kind of interesting, but from the long-term viewpoint appear to be merely random and pointless. I won't stay interested in random and pointless forever.
