[Dr_Zoidberg]

I have two Bolts and a Premiere XL, with All-In all the way around. Now, the Edge promotional deal comes along, and I'm considering replacing the Premiere XL with an Edge.

Does anyone out there have anything in favor of upgrading to the Edge? The Premiere's interface is a big sluggish, as is the one on the Bolts. Are there any caveats to consider when buying an Edge?

 

[MrDell]

I have two Bolts and a Premiere XL, with All-In all the way around. Now, the Edge promotional deal comes along, and I'm considering replacing the Premiere XL with an Edge.

Does anyone out there have anything in favor of upgrading to the Edge? The Premiere's interface is a big sluggish, as is the one on the Bolts. Are there any caveats to consider when buying an Edge?

You will definitely see a performance increase over the Premiere because of a newer generation processor but these new Tivos are not built to last like the Roameos or Premieres. Their laptop hard drives are not as dependable as the full size hard drives used in Roameos and Premieres, and they have premature failures because of heat build up. Adding external cooling does help quite a bit though. I have a Bolt going on four years with external cooling still going strong!

 

[bobfrank]

I have two Bolts and a Premiere XL, with All-In all the way around. Now, the Edge promotional deal comes along, and I'm considering replacing the Premiere XL with an Edge.

Does anyone out there have anything in favor of upgrading to the Edge? The Premiere's interface is a big sluggish, as is the one on the Bolts. Are there any caveats to consider when buying an Edge?

Make sure you prefer the TE4 interface over the TE3 interface. TE4 is your only choice with the Edge.

 

[snerd]

You will definitely see a performance increase over the Premiere because of a newer generation processor but these new Tivos are not built to last like the Roameos or Premieres. Their laptop hard drives are not as dependable as the full size hard drives used in Roameos and Premieres, and they have premature failures because of heat build up. Adding external cooling does help quite a bit though. I have a Bolt going on four years with external cooling still going strong!

The Edge has much better cooling than the Bolt, so it shouldn't require external cooling.

 

[Dr_Zoidberg]

Make sure you prefer the TE4 interface over the TE3 interface. TE4 is your only choice with the Edge.

That's the so-called Hydra interface? Yeah, I do like it and I keep forgetting how to work the Premiere's interface, in comparison.

The Edge has much better cooling than the Bolt, so it shouldn't require external cooling.

That's good, I've had my primiary bolt overheat a few times. Finally moved it to outside of my component rack, so it gets adequate cooling. I've also had it replaced once, and in a separate incudent, I replaced the hard drive with one from Weaknees after a failure.

 

[MrDell]

The Edge has much better cooling than the Bolt, so it shouldn't require external cooling.

Thanks for that info…. I wasn't aware of that… glad that's not an issue anymore!

 

[bobfrank]

That's the so-called Hydra interface? Yeah, I do like it and I keep forgetting how to work the Premiere's interface, in comparison.

That's good, I've had my primiary bolt overheat a few times. Finally moved it to outside of my component rack, so it gets adequate cooling. I've also had it replaced once, and in a separate incudent, I replaced the hard drive with one from Weaknees after a failure.

Yep, that's Hydra. As long as you prefer that then you should like the Edge. It'll out perform the Premier by a lot, I understand. Note: the Premiere and the Edge are the only 2 generations of Tivo that I haven't owned.

 

[lujan]

I'm considering the Edge as well but only as a backup. I already have two lifetime Bolts.

 

[Dr_Zoidberg]

Took the plunge and just placed the order. Guess I'll be removing the CableCard from my Premiere XL4 and putting it in the Bolt. Hopefully I can realign the CC to the Edge without waiting too long on the phone with Verizon.

A PremiereXL4 with Lifetime's gotta be worth something? Interestingly, I have a TiVoHD still registered with the my account with Lifetime. It's on a shelf somewhere, along with an Inactive Series2 that should still work. Time to do some housecleaning!

 

[bareyb]

The Edge has much better cooling than the Bolt, so it shouldn't require external cooling.

Just picked up a lifetimed Bolt for cable on Amazon. What external cooling solutions have you guys found? Would putting taller feet under it help get more air under the unit?

 

[snerd]

Just picked up a lifetimed Bolt for cable on Amazon. What external cooling solutions have you guys found? Would putting taller feet under it help get more air under the unit?

I added rubber feet that are about 1/2" under corners of my Bolt, and use this AC Infinity MULTIFAN S3 which plugs into the USB port of the Bolt.

 

[bareyb]

I added rubber feet that are about 1/2" under corners of my Bolt, and use this AC Infinity MULTIFAN S3 which plugs into the USB port of the Bolt.

I may do that too. I just talked with Weaknees and TiVo CS (on chat) and they are saying that there's no problem with with the 1 TB units, only the 3 TB Bolts overheat now. Tivo said they updated the software and they "rarely ever get complaints about Bolts overheating now". Still I may go for one of these. It sits under the Bolt where the air intakes are: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NNMB3K...colid=8LPSCPPVA2NW&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

Although.... putting a fan behind it like I assume you did, would probably hide the fan... come to think of it, I like your fan idea better.

 

[pl1]

Although.... putting a fan behind it like I assume you did, would probably hide the fan... come to think of it, I like your fan idea better.

I sit the Bolt on that fan, with two raised feet to level it.

 

[bareyb]

I sit the Bolt on that fan, with two raised feet to level it.
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I see you are a function over form kind of guy! Was your Bolt overheating or did you do this a preemptive strike? How much cooler does it run now?

 

[pl1]

I see you are a function over form kind of guy! Was your Bolt overheating or did you do this a preemptive strike? How much cooler does it run now?

It has always been hot, especially where the cableCARD sits, so I leave the cableCARD cover off and blow air in at that location. I have also run it with an external drive, but I do have an internal for now. My ODT is currently 54C.
Edit: I think that is about 10C lower than without the fan.

 

[bareyb]

It has always been hot, especially where the cableCARD sits, so I leave the cableCARD cover off and blow air in at that location. I have also run it with an external drive, but I do have an internal for now. My ODT is currently 54C.
Edit: I think that is about 10C lower than without the fan.

Thanks! Did it ever actually overheat? As in gave you an error message or whatever TiVos do when they overheat?

 

[pl1]

Thanks! Did it ever actually overheat? As in gave you an error message or whatever TiVos do when they overheat?

No, never. It just felt too hot to me and others recommended this USB fan. And so far, it has been good for two years now.

 

[bareyb]

No, never. It just felt too hot to me and others recommended this USB fan. And so far, it has been good for two years now.

I may just do that too. Thank you! Appreciate the link @snerd

 

[pl1]

I may just do that too. Thank you! Appreciate the link.

Actually @snerd gets the kudos!

 

[waynomo]

Another option is upgrading to an external 3.5 inch drive and enclosing that in a separate case with its own cooling.

I followed the instructions that have been posted elsewhere on TCF. I went with a 6 TB drive.