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Is Terra Nova going to make it?

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While FRINGE may have proved that FOX actually can run a sci fi show without killing it after the first month or two, I'm not totally convinced.

Should I start watching all the episodes I've recorded, or is this going to be another "Invasion"/"Surface"/"V" type fiasco?

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I'm losing interest. I have even waited for the weekend to watch. Not a good sign.
It's one of the most expensive shows ever made, and my understanding is that the ratings are mediocre at best. I'm sure they'll finish off the season (13 episodes), since it's all in the can. But I would be surprised to see a second season.
I have only watched the pilot and stacked the others, but my first thought was that this would be good in 3D.
TV By the Numbers suggests that the show is likely to be renewed.
The problem with that "analysis" is that it doesn't take cost into account...it may have higher ratings than other shows on the network, but it's also MUCH more expensive to make. So expensive (and time-consuming) that giving it a back-half order to complete the first season was out of the question.
Anyone remember BATTLESTAR GALACTICA? The real one, not the one SyFy did.

Most expensive TV show ever, at the time, and it made it a whole season, but due to costs and threats from Lucas ("It's just like Star Wars! I'll sue!") ABC let it go after one season.

They later tried to bring it back, but with the lower budget and poor planning (initially none of the original cast were to be used), the "second season" tanked after a few episodes.

All later efforts to bring it back as a continuation (no matter who was behind them) had one common thread- "The events in the second season never happened."

This has me concerned again. Likely to be renewed but so expensive Fox is saying "Let's only do a few episodes each season"?

Worked well for "V", didn't it?

Oh well, I suppose I can just throw another set of recorded DVD-Rs away if the show gets killed on a cliff-hanger.
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This has me concerned again. Likely to be renewed but so expensive Fox is saying "Let's only do a few episodes each season"?
Bear in mind that "Likely to be renewed" in the TV By The Numbers link is based solely upon combining two numbers (show's ratings compared to average ratings on that network), with no human analysis whatsoever.

I have heard nothing from human beings that suggests it is likely to be renewed. Then again, I've heard nothing one way or the other that isn't pure speculation. The speculation, however, is that no show that expensive with those ratings stands much of a chance.
Some shows start with a great idea with lots of teasers, then fail to move the story along quickly enough for the audience. (Caprica comes to mind) I put Terra Nova in this category. Not a bad cast, not a bad idea, for being SciFi, minimal amount of CGI. So are we going to fall in love with the Robinson family (Lost in Space reference) and simply enjoy their lives week to week? Or do we need to see action and plot advance? The ratings will answer this.
I hope it makes it. But I'm afraid it will go extinct. :(
I like it. It's not the best show around, but it's entertaining and I can watch with my 12 year old daughter, so there's that. But perhaps there's only 13 episodes because...ummmm...Fox's schedule from January on is dominated by American Idol, a cheap show to make that makes the network oodles of money. So they keep the schedule as open as possible for as many AI episodes as they can broadcast,and fill in with less expensive shows, like Traffic Light, which is what they did last year. And with the success of X-Factor, I wonder if they do the same thing next fall, and just not bother spending the money on anything decent, when they have another cash cow to dominate the schedule.
I like it. It's not the best show around, but it's entertaining and I can watch with my 12 year old daughter, so there's that. But perhaps there's only 13 episodes because...ummmm...Fox's schedule from January on is dominated by American Idol, a cheap show to make that makes the network oodles of money. So they keep the schedule as open as possible for as many AI episodes as they can broadcast,and fill in with less expensive shows, like Traffic Light, which is what they did last year. And with the success of X-Factor, I wonder if they do the same thing next fall, and just not bother spending the money on anything decent, when they have another cash cow to dominate the schedule.
Still, Fox has to fill the schedule with something, especially if, as expected, this is the last season of House. (Then again...time to stat another unfounded rumor: the real reason they demanded a major pay cut from the main actors on The Simpsons is to have enough money to make Hugh Laurie an offer he just can't refuse for "just one more season" of House.

Then again, if they go ahead with the much-rumored Glee spinoff with Lea Michele and Chris Colfer, the schedule can look like this:

Monday: NYADA (the Glee spinoff); Masterchef / Hell's Kitchen
Tuesday: Glee; Raising Hope; New Girl
Wednesday: X Factor / Idol
Thursday: X Factor / Idol (results); Bones
Friday: Kitchen Nightmares; Fringe
Saturday: Cops; animation repeats
Sunday: animation (and football/NASCAR when applicable)

Terra Nova has one thing in its favor; they can "get away with" 13-episode seasons.
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I'm still liking TN... As a previous viewer of Idol - I didn't watch a single X-Factor; and right now don't really plan on watching the next season of Idol. Rather bored with it.
I like TN a lot but the story needs to move along and Stephen Lang needs to stop trying to act like Chuck Norris.
I gave up on the show Sunday.

I watched the first 2 episodes. Didn't love or hate the show. Sunday I went to watch the 3rd episode and found the entire hour was baseball. I did not feel like spending the time finding this missing episode. So, I deleted everything on my DVR I had for the show. If the show had actually been there, maybe I'd still be watching the show. Stupid baseball killed the little interest I had in the show.
Anyone remember BATTLESTAR GALACTICA? The real one, not the one SyFy did.
Funny you should mention that. Watching the previews at the end of last night's show, I saw something that strongly reminded me of a scene in the original Battlestar.

When they showed the little dinosaur pet I immediately thought of the introduction of Muffitt II on Battlestar Galactica. Not sure if that was a jump the shark moment but I think that's about the point where I gave up on that show.
He does consider cost. He just doesn't think it's as important as others.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/10/18/fox-terra-nova-disappointing-so-what/107593/

A network can always renew a show (with decent ratings) but negotiate a lower fee. A network is less likely to review a show with bad ratings, even if the producers agree to take less money.
I think it's going to be hard for this show to find an audience. To be honest, I gave up in the first episode. The way the characters acted and the sets were too unrealistic for me to suspend disbelief enough to get into the story.

For example, the scene when the family enters their new house is a good example of what I mean. The dad has been living in prison and the rest of the family has been living in polluted slums. They enter their new house which looks amazingly furnished and decorated (what!?). They complain about how it looks and say they want to repaint and put down rugs (huh? Is there a Home Depot nearby?). The son compains that the dad deserted the family (yeah! in prison). The baby is worried that there isn't a place for her because she can't find her own bedroom (what? wasn't she living in an air duct in the last scene?) Just too many eye-rolling scenes for me to care about the story.

I can go along with a contrived situation, but I want the characters to respond in a believable way. "Twilight Zone" is an example of this done well. Each episode was a contrived situation, but the characters seemed to react in an appropriate way for what was happening. In TN I kept thinking, he wouldn't do that, she wouldn't do that, he wouldn't say that, that place wouldn't look like that, etc.
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He does consider cost. He just doesn't think it's as important as others.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/10/18/fox-terra-nova-disappointing-so-what/107593/

A network can always renew a show (with decent ratings) but negotiate a lower fee. A network is less likely to review a show with bad ratings, even if the producers agree to take less money.
And on the flip side, great ratings don't guarantee money will flow from the network. See "Walking Dead"
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