[robertwhee]

My 10-250 has been dying a slow painful death and I just refused to believe it. Yesterday was the last straw, every channel I turned to had audio and video blackouts, hdmi port died, pixelating badly. I was just devasted..

I called DTV and told them of the problem and they offered me the new hd dvr and the new dish with installation for only 19.95

I was going to hold out because I love the TIVO interface but I had no choice, at least DTV made the transition easier with the low cost of the new equipment.

Wish me luck it is getting installed tomorrow

 

[jennifer]

Good luck! I'm having the new HD DVR installed on 8/1. Fingers crossed that our installs go smoothly

 

[Talon]

My upgrade was done on 6/9. I got the same 19.95 deal. Went well. The HR20 has worked fine also. (I still have several Tivos in the house in use so please don't attack me for saying that.)

 

[robertwhee]

Why would I attack, hell I am jealous I am down to one TIVO now...


RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2008

 

[robertwhee]

Well the hr20 install was done on wed. and what a nightmare. Ironwood Comm. did not show up with the new 5 lnb dish and the tech said I didn't really need it. Humm, I said how will I get the locals using the sat and he said I could use OTA. I asked about how I will get the new HD channels in the fall and he said it would be just fine with the 3 lnb dish. I knew better and demanded the new dish. They came back yesterday and installed it. As for the hr20, YUCKKKK. I want my tivo back. I thought I would be ok without dual buffers but I tried watching two shows last night and it sucked....Will I ever get used to the new system? Someone please talk me down from the bridge...

 

[kramerboy]

Well the hr20 install was done on wed. and what a nightmare. Ironwood Comm. did not show up with the new 5 lnb dish and the tech said I didn't really need it. Humm, I said how will I get the locals using the sat and he said I could use OTA. I asked about how I will get the new HD channels in the fall and he said it would be just fine with the 3 lnb dish. I knew better and demanded the new dish. They came back yesterday and installed it. As for the hr20, YUCKKKK. I want my tivo back. I thought I would be ok without dual buffers but I tried watching two shows last night and it sucked....Will I ever get used to the new system? Someone please talk me down from the bridge...

Sorry, we are not allowed to talk you down from the bridge here at this forum. It's not allowed.

You can, however, get some help and reassurance at dbstalk.com......

 

[RS4]

Yeah - go over there - they have some Cool Aid for you to drink as you're walking over to the middle of the bridge They like helping out and telling you how this won't hurt at all.

 

[ebonovic]

Yeah - go over there - they have some Cool Aid for you to drink as you're walking over to the middle of the bridge They like helping out and telling you how this won't hurt at all.

Yah... and the Cool Aid here isn't flowing.... well... it might be at the bottom of the pitcher though, where all the excess sugar buzz is.

While being served telling you how BAD it is going to be...

 

[Redux]

Yah... and the Cool Aid here isn't flowing....

There is no great shortage of Cool Aid anywhere.

The difference is, in this case, we're not over there fouling _your_ nest.

 

[bonscott87]

There is no great shortage of Cool Aid anywhere.

The difference is, in this case, we're not over there fouling _your_ nest.

What fouling is happening here? Besides this was *my* nest LONG before you came along here. Simple answering questions and responding to FUD is "fouling" the forum? I don't think so.

Ahhh but I know what you or RS4 will say next. "But you come over here and spout all these great things about the HR20 that are false and there are problems, blah, blah". However that's far from the truth in that people readily admit problems with the HR20. People that post here are simply trying to present a *fair* evaluation, not one tainted by hate.

And maybe if you visited over there you'd see *plenty* of posts about the HR20 vs. Tivo vs. Cable DVR vs. Dish DVR.

 

[RS4]

"And maybe if you visited over there you'd see *plenty* of posts about the HR20 vs. Tivo vs. Cable DVR vs. Dish DVR."

Absolutely, I agree with Scott on that!! Research the other forums and the internet. See how other people feel about the box. You'll find just as many people over there saying they wished they didn't have to use the HR20 - especially the Tivo owners. Remember, the dbstalk forum is for people who own the box or are interested in it so you expect a great deal of bias just as we are biased here for the Tivo. But, it doesn't take a lot of reading over there to find that a lot of folks don't like it and would prefer to have stayed with the Tivo.

 

[drew2k]

"And maybe if you visited over there you'd see *plenty* of posts about the HR20 vs. Tivo vs. Cable DVR vs. Dish DVR."

Absolutely, I agree with Scott on that!! Research the other forums and the internet. See how other people feel about the box. You'll find just as many people over there saying they wished they didn't have to use the HR20 - especially the Tivo owners. Remember, the dbstalk forum is for people who own the box or are interested in it so you expect a great deal of bias just as we are biased here for the Tivo. But, it doesn't take a lot of reading over there to find that a lot of folks don't like it and would prefer to have stayed with the Tivo.

Why do you feel the need to constantly reply to every post about the HR20 with the sentiment that the HR20 is a piece of crap?

It doesn't take a lot of reading here to find people who are unhappy with their TiVos, but what does that have to do with the overall quality of the DVR?

The HR20 in use TODAY (and that's all that matters - TODAY) is a high-quality DVR. The first rollout had problems, and that's big in a lot of people's minds, but people using the HR20 TODAY will not have those problems as the early users.

Now read this next sentence out loud:

The Series 3 is a high-quality DVR enjoyed by thousands of happy TiVo customers, even though based on threads at TCF there are some customers who have experienced lost recordings or other problems with their DVRs.

Now read it again:

The HR20 is a high-quality DVR enjoyed by thousands of happy DIRECTV customers, even though based on threads at DBSTalk there are some customers who have experienced lost recordings or other problems with their DVRs.

Does either sentence mean either DVR is crap? No! So get off it already! You don't like that HR20 and that's your right, but it's wrong to to complain when someone corrects misinformation about the HR20 and refers further discussion to DBSTalk. At least that's what it seems like is happening to me every time the HR20 comes up here.

 

[magnus]

Why not just use the component video connection? That would save you a new commitment to D* and the hassle of using their DVR.

My 10-250 has been dying a slow painful death and I just refused to believe it. Yesterday was the last straw, every channel I turned to had audio and video blackouts, hdmi port died, pixelating badly. I was just devasted..

I called DTV and told them of the problem and they offered me the new hd dvr and the new dish with installation for only 19.95

I was going to hold out because I love the TIVO interface but I had no choice, at least DTV made the transition easier with the low cost of the new equipment.

Wish me luck it is getting installed tomorrow

 

[Redux]

this was *my* nest LONG before you came along

There are not a whole lot of people I recognize still around from my earliest days here.

I became convinced a couple of times that I had found competing products better than Tivo, but I did not hang around here to crap on Tivo. Which would have been embarrassing since it turned out I was wrong; Tivo knows how to do it right. Astounding that no one has been able to rip them off successfully yet, but it simply hasn't happened.

 

[Mark Lopez]

There are not a whole lot of people I recognize still around from my earliest days here.

That's odd. Because I still see a lot of the 'original' group here.

Tivo knows how to do it right.

If Tivo knew how to do it right, it still would not have bugs 7+ years after release. If Tivo knew how to do it right, they would have kept listening to the users as they did in the 'real' early days.

Astounding that no one has been able to rip them off successfully yet, but it simply hasn't happened.

Why do people keep forgetting to put the IMO before making an absurd statement?

 

[bonscott87]

but I did not hang around here to crap on Tivo.

I don't crap on Tivo either. To the contrary. I like Tivo, still have 2 of them going. But if I want to watch my local channels in HD, watch my Red Wings in HD and watch 100+ channels in HD then I can't use Tivo. Besides that I have grown to like the HR20 better. Who knew.

 

[Redux]

if I want to watch my local channels in HD, watch my Red Wings in HD and watch 100+ channels in HD then I can't use Tivo.

The locals I've seen on an HR20 (admittedly not _my_ local area) were not as good in picture quality as OTA on my HR10-250 and I see no reason to settle for less. I never saw anything close to "100+" HighDef channels on the HR20.

 

[drew2k]

The locals I've seen on an HR20 (admittedly not _my_ local area) were not as good in picture quality as OTA on my HR10-250 and I see no reason to settle for less. I never saw anything close to "100+" HighDef channels on the HR20.

Was your time travel machine broken?

Because the 100+ HD channels on the HR20 don't start rolling out until this September. By the way, the HR20 also has an OTA antenna.

 

[Whynot]

Earl, Bonsccott and Drew go back to DBS and preach because you are doing a disservice to D* by pissing off people. It is funny that this talk can go on here but at DBS if you even look like there is a problem you will be axed by Earl.

Yes I know I will get heat by crossing the great Earl but I'm not a Tivo lover but when the DVR can not record a show from start to finish( by own accounts from DBS users ) it is time to look else where for service. Yes I'm even looking a cable for service, just canceled Sunday Ticket because of cost vs. what I watch. So for me there is no reason to keep a dish on my roof because D* time has gone by.

 

[coachO]

I sure hope I can hold out until they come up with a new version of the HR20 which has dual buffers, etc. - so I hope Earl keeps reading about the complants.

If not, then the Series 3 looks like my next step. As said many times by others, the NFL sunday ticket was a drawing factor to D*, but I dropped that when they started charging extra for HD.

I just added the fourth HD TV in my house and I only have 2 HR10s. So I am ready, they just need to produce the product that consumers want - not the one they will settle for!

I could probably live with a HR20 but not with a 2 year subscription.

Maybe I just need to build my own computer with HD capture cards and network my entire system. Sounds like I will have to make the decision in the very near future.