[krkaufman]

As for the guide, I still hate the grid guide. Even as grid guides go it's pretty ugly and it doesn't always operate as expected. I select what appears to be the current show on another channel and it asks me if I want to record? What? Change the stupid channel.

When this happens to me, it's usually because the show I've selected is not yet playing. For example, it's 9:14pm but the show doesn't start until 9:15 but the guide already has that as the show currently playing on the channel.

Right, because TiVo chose, as a default, to shift the starting point for the guide to the next half hour if you're within a few minutes of the half-hour (I haven't tested what the actual threshold is), requiring the user to navigate left to get back to present time.

The other time I see this behavior (failure to immediately tune to a channel) is when navigating up or down in present time, and I press select on a channel ... but the selected show has already ended. I see this as a bug. Unless the user has shifted right or left within the guide, the selected show should always be whatever is currently airing, not whatever is listed at the half-hour start point or what was current when the guide was opened. (This is one aspect I miss from the ReplayTV, where shows that have ended had a grey background, distinguishing them from live, and a shortcoming relative to other guides that more clearly communicate the current time.)

 

[nrc]

Right, because TiVo chose, as a default, to shift the starting point for the guide to the next half hour if you're within a few minutes of the half-hour (I haven't tested what the actual threshold is), requiring the user to navigate left to get back to present time.

Yes, this must be what I was encountering. I really don't want to have to explain to my wife that she may sometimes have to go back in time to tune to another channel. That's stupid.

If they're presenting something as the current show on the grid then selecting it should tune it. Of course then if you hit record thinking you've just tuned to the program they're showing on the guide, you're really recording the last minute of the previous show. So again, shifting the grid early seems like a stupid design.

 

[TonyD79]

Hmm. I haven’t actually noticed it advancing early. But what I have seen is if show ends prior to the half hour but has already, it is selected rather than the current show.

 

[JoeKustra]

Just compared TE3 and TE4. With TE3 the guide jumps to the next 30 minute block 6 minutes before that block starts. With TE4 the guide jumps on the exact time. Also, the progress bar on the guide is nice. Each has its advantages. I do prefer the thirty minute advance of TE3, but I can still use the TiVo without it.

 

[TonyD79]

Just compared TE3 and TE4. With TE3 the guide jumps to the next 30 minute block 6 minutes before that block starts. With TE4 the guide jumps on the exact time. Also, the progress bar on the guide is nice. Each has its advantages. I do prefer the thirty minute advance of TE3, but I can still use the TiVo without it.

That confirms my memory. I prefer jumping on the exact time.

 

[JoeKustra]

That confirms my memory. I prefer jumping on the exact time.

The world's not perfect. At 4pm EDT, South Park eps ends at 4:35pm and Volcano ends at 4:04pm. That's where people get confused.

 

[PSU_Sudzi]

Let's talk it up out there guys!