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I've been using Tivo live guide since series 2 and without it in Hydra it's the only thing holding me back from upgrading. I tried using grid guide on my Roamio pro for a couple days to see if the wife and I could get use to it and personally we much rather have Live guide.
Really odd they didn't include it and until they do I'm sticking with gen3.
 

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I'm not missing the live guide yet. Is there another way to see everything that's coming up on a certain channel over the next 24 hours, on 1 screen ?
There does not appear to be. No search by channel either.

The closest is the down arrow that gives you tiles for a single channel but that is just the next couple of shows per button push.
 

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I didn't realize how much I relied on the live guide functionality until I flipped my Roamio to the grid version as a test.

Most of my recordings are on sports networks and movie channels. Without the live guide it's much more time consuming to navigate a week or two ahead to see what games or films are coming up.

Really want to jump into Hydra, but like others on this thread, will be holding off until the live guide (or similar functionality) is added or at least announced as in development.
 

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Which was my point. TiVo means I don't have to browse around. It records what I want, then I watch that. Search is a fast way to create a OnePass for a show I hear about.
Which means you are limited. You have to know what you want.

Let's go to a restaurant. You "know what you want" so you don't look at the menu. Your friend looks at the menu and finds something new that you wish you had known about.

Do what you want but it seems silly to assume you know everything you ever want to watch and if it is even available.
 

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It's been a tough transition for my wife. Personally, I miss the live guide. I also miss the three channel guide while watching Live TV. I mean pretty pictures are great and all, for the TV shows. However, if it is so laggy it brings the whole system to a screaming halt...

I honestly get that it's a "Beta Test", but as it stands now this should be considered more of an Alpha test. I would immediately roll back if I didn't lose my recordings.
 

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Which means you are limited. You have to know what you want.

Let's go to a restaurant. You "know what you want" so you don't look at the menu. Your friend looks at the menu and finds something new that you wish you had known about.

Do what you want but it seems silly to assume you know everything you ever want to watch and if it is even available.
Isn't that what Suggestions are supposed to do?

And if search worked correctly, you could search using genres and find something new that way.
 

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The live guide for the Bolt looks ugly and half-baked. It looks like an afterthought. The Series 1 Tivo had a much more refined live guide, though I wish the background was more translucent and less transparent. It was difficult to read sometimes. But the Bolt's is a step backward and disappointing. In retrospect, maybe it was a sign of things to come.

The live guide is for people who love certain channels. The grid guide is for those who want to know what will be on soon across all the channels. I'm sure Tivo has data on how many people are using the live guide, and maybe it wasn't enough to justify its development in Hydra.
 

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Isn't that what Suggestions are supposed to do?

And if search worked correctly, you could search using genres and find something new that way.
So you just let someone else decide for you. Based upon some suspect algorithm.

Okay. So the restaurant will just serve you what they want to.

Or just restrict you to one part of the menu.

Why would anyone want to limit themselves?
 

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...most agree with me, why get rid of it for no reason?
I disagree with your "most agree with me" statement.

TiVo knows exactly how many use the grid and how many use the live guide. The members of TCF are not the majority of TiVo users and the majority probably never switch from the default grid guide.

And they didn't get rid of it. They looked at existing usage data and decided to not put resources behind rewriting the live guide for gen4.
 

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I disagree with your "most agree with me" statement.

TiVo knows exactly how many use the grid and how many use the live guide. The members of TCF are not the majority of TiVo users and the majority probably never switch from the default grid guide.

And they didn't get rid of it. They looked at existing usage data and decided to not put resources behind rewriting the live guide for gen4.
the poll here says otherwise
and TCF users are important :)
 

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So you just let someone else decide for you. Based upon some suspect algorithm.

Okay. So the restaurant will just serve you what they want to.

Or just restrict you to one part of the menu.

Why would anyone want to limit themselves?
Because the don't spend their whole life watching TV and/or find they can be happy with most any show in the categories they have come to like?

Regarding restaurants, most people I eat with are amazed how quick I pick something and don't worry about what else I might like. I tell them I like pretty much like everything so anything is fine, and I can not remember the last time I didn't enjoy a meal out and I eat out several times a week.

I really do feel sorry for those that are so picky about things that they spend most of there lives being unhappy with whatever, and/or fretting about getting it just right. While I can understand some of that for some things in life I am certainly not going to spend a whole lot of time worrying about what I watch on TV, but do plead guilty, to some extend, when it comes to movies I watch in the theater.
 
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